Modern industrial famring utilizes forced insemination with a tool operated by a human.
A reasonable person could argue that it’s not sexual assault becuase the act was not for sextial gratification, but purely utilitarian in order to obtain a baby cow, disregarding the welfare of the cow.
In other words, whether an act is sexual assault or not depends on the intentions of the actor, regardless of the experience of the subject and physical nature of the act.
If you fill in “human” as your subject in the above formula, a reasonable person could conclude that the experience of the subject does, infact, matter.
I’m aware. I’m a vegan because I’m not down for animal rape. The bestiality laws are written with exceptions for people who are acting, not out of their own sexual interest, but out of financial interest.
I wanted to have a slightly different discussion, because this one’s depressing as shit though.
Honestly it would be really interesting to read that discussion, if it stayed objective and not divert to memeing. You can argue bestiality shouldn’t be forbidden by specific laws (but animal welfare laws) since if we make laws based on what we find gross, that’s how we get bans on homosexuality for example. Also you could argue that animals can actually consent in some ways, since if a male dog is willing to hump anything, isn’t that consenting? But then on the other hand in comparison if a person of limited mental capacity is willing to fuck anything, is fucking them ethical?
Anyway, after writing that I find it important to point out that I’m personally aromantic asexual and absolutely do not want to fuck anything lmao. Though maybe that also has something to do with how I can look at these concepts from a distance, since they have nothing to do with me
The keyword is informed consent, which requires full understanding of the situation. Children, animals, and impaired people can’t give informed consent.
Clever. I wish I’d gotten a serious discussion out of this, but that’s the community.
But his comment is relevant the toppic.
Modern industrial famring utilizes forced insemination with a tool operated by a human.
A reasonable person could argue that it’s not sexual assault becuase the act was not for sextial gratification, but purely utilitarian in order to obtain a baby cow, disregarding the welfare of the cow.
In other words, whether an act is sexual assault or not depends on the intentions of the actor, regardless of the experience of the subject and physical nature of the act.
If you fill in “human” as your subject in the above formula, a reasonable person could conclude that the experience of the subject does, infact, matter.
You got it. This is why I went vegan for years.
I’m aware. I’m a vegan because I’m not down for animal rape. The bestiality laws are written with exceptions for people who are acting, not out of their own sexual interest, but out of financial interest.
I wanted to have a slightly different discussion, because this one’s depressing as shit though.
A serious discussion about the ethics of bestiality? If that’s the kind of place you’re looking for I think you might have to create it yourself.
Honestly it would be really interesting to read that discussion, if it stayed objective and not divert to memeing. You can argue bestiality shouldn’t be forbidden by specific laws (but animal welfare laws) since if we make laws based on what we find gross, that’s how we get bans on homosexuality for example. Also you could argue that animals can actually consent in some ways, since if a male dog is willing to hump anything, isn’t that consenting? But then on the other hand in comparison if a person of limited mental capacity is willing to fuck anything, is fucking them ethical?
Anyway, after writing that I find it important to point out that I’m personally aromantic asexual and absolutely do not want to fuck anything lmao. Though maybe that also has something to do with how I can look at these concepts from a distance, since they have nothing to do with me
The keyword is informed consent, which requires full understanding of the situation. Children, animals, and impaired people can’t give informed consent.
I don’t think I have the moderating skills, lol.
Now I’m trying to figure out what dirty joke I accidentally made