I bought a 2nd-hand Lenovo USB-C PSU (ADLX65YLC3D) which indicates a range of voltages (20v, 15v, 9v, 5v) on the label. Tried to charge a few different bicycle lights but the charging indicators did not light up on any of them. I almost tossed it because the 2nd-hand market I bought from is definately dodgy. But then I tried to power a Rasberry Pi and it seems to work on that. So wtf? An a/c adapter either works or it doesn’t. What would cause this: works on some devices but not others? The Rasberry Pi needs 5v just as the bicycle lights. That is the default voltage for USB-c.

  • ThePantser@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    The lights most likely do not have the extra circuitry to talk to the charger to negotiate voltages. Since it’s a charger that can change voltage as you stated then the device must be able to say “hey give me 5v”. You will need to use a dumber 5v only charger for those devices.

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      1 day ago

      What would be the meaning of a default voltage then? My understanding of USB PD is that 5v is a default, which I took to mean it would deliver 5v in the absence of a handshake.

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        Yeah, but some power bricks want to be safe and wont give any power without power delivery negotiation. It’s not unreasonable, and it is safe, it wont burn anything out.

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            The spec is very clear, the source does not need to provide any amperage, just voltage. PE_SRC_Disabled (see my other comment in this thread)

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              24 hours ago

              voltage = current × resistance, IIRC my high school physics correctly. If current is zero, then voltage must also be zero, no? I don’t understand how voltage can be positive if amperage is zero.

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                24 hours ago

                Your right, but it only needs a tiny amount to signal 5V.

                The power brick engineers can choose to fail safe (just 5V only minimal amperage), or fail dangerous (5W power delivery) - for this lenovo power brick they decided to fail safe.