• JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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    4 hours ago

    I don’t even know what Star Trek stands for anymore. It just seems to be slogging on for money, for quite a while now.

    Even in the original sense, Gene Roddenberry’s high-principled ideals was kind of sabotaged by how he actually conducted himself. That said, a lot of great stories and eps were produced along the way, IMO.

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      3 hours ago

      The problem is is Gene Roddenberry Is not who made star trek what it is. You need DC Fontaine and Gene Coon and for TNG you need Ronald D Moore and Michael Pillar and to some extent Rick Berman for putting the limitations on those writers to drive creativity.

      The problem is people don’t realize, like with Batman. Bob Kane had a good idea but it was really Bill Finger that really made Batman what we know today.

      Just like with Bob, Gene Roddenberry knew how to take credit for others work and create the myth of one man doing it all.

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        3 hours ago

        Agree with all that, but:

        The problem is is Gene Roddenberry Is not who made star trek what it is.

        He certainly was the one most responsible, though. Yeah, there was a huge issue of him taking credit for other peoples’ work, but it was indeed him with the vision, and him constantly perfecting scripts before he turned them over to the production team. Without him there is no Star Trek, period.

        Humans are complex, and my read is that he was one of those ‘benevolent dictator’ types who was useful for a while, before everyone had enough of his shit. Berman was kind of similar from what I understand…