Good. Enshittify to your heart’s content, until people realise that just sucking a different big tech corp’s tit is not the solution.
Stop using Apple
Your address is incorrect. You need to drop the s off of it
Ooops, thanks for pointing it out. I have corrected the post
How’s their route algorithms? Never used it for navigation
OSMAnd+ is a good app. Using openmaps. You often Ned the address of where you are going since place searches of businesses may no come up. But the navigation has been good.
I have observed no issues. Every once in a while, when choosing large targets like an airport, it’s hard to chose the right “destination” from the many available as the labels don’t always have all details.
Other than that, no issues whatsoever.
PS: to put it in context, I am a casual user who basically never remembers street names or directions so I use it often but it’s not like I am an Uber driver
Nothing like free software
This was the only reason I used it.
On to the next!
Serves anyone using that garbage right.
Ive got a work iPad. There are ads in the calculator (plus a paid upgrade for like the smart pencil scribble math upgrade. Imagine paying $700 AUD for the cheapest iPad here in AUS, for a subscription fee for the calculator)
Lol I used to think they scrapped the maps app entirely. Surprised it still exists. Who even uses it outside the US?
I’m not even an apple user but i use their maps as an alternative to gmaps on ddg.
and a shitty one at that… DDG was good, now it’s just Bing + Apple maps which is bad on both fronts
I throw a lot of shit at Google but Google Maps is the best piece of software they have ever created. I wish OSM was this upto date with their data but it has a long way to go. I think this that piece of software which needs a big dedicated team or at-least paid volunteers instead of community volunteers because there ain’t no way I am going out to volunteer for free to map out my neighbourhood accurately.
Mapping your neighborhood is actually a lot of fun if you use StreetComplete! Nice way to get outside and explore.
I throw a lot of shit at Google but Google Maps is the best piece of software they have ever created
Agreed but that is not really saying much considering Google’s resources and how often the fuck everything up
because there ain’t no way I am going out to volunteer for free to map out my neighbourhood accurately.
because you enjoy corporate oversight and ads? or because you don’t see the benefit to you personally?
because you enjoy corporate oversight and ads? or because you don’t see the benefit to you personally?
Bruh. Everything doesn’t have to be political. I simply don’t have the time, energy and willingness to learn and contribute to a project which people in my community are not even going to use. The incentive simply isn’t their for anyone when there is already a perfectly working solution—as much as I hate to say—from Google. I wish OSM and the maps & navigation apps using it were more popular and better but they aren’t simply because they don’t have dedicated teams.
Google Maps also get contributions from the community (which is much larger than OSM). So google benefits from volunteer contributions as well as their own teams mapping stuff around the world which OSM can never match. It isn’t something like Search, Drive or Photos that can be replaced by a community driven FOSS alternative. It requires huge funding.
The incentive simply isn’t their for anyone when there is already a perfectly working solution—as much as I hate to say—from Google
So you enjoy corporate oversight and ads? or at least they don’t bother you enough to seek alternatives?. It’s not political, I am spelling out what you seem to be trying to avoid saying.
I wish OSM and the maps & navigation apps using it were more popular and better but they aren’t simply because they don’t have dedicated teams.
But you don’t wish it enough to contribute in any way…
Google Maps also get contributions from the community (which is much larger than OSM). So google benefits from volunteer contributions as well as their own teams mapping stuff around the world which OSM can never match. It isn’t something like Search, Drive or Photos that can be replaced by a community driven FOSS alternative. It requires huge funding.
I think you are just doubling down on this to convince yourself that it is not that you are being selfish here, you are just being smart by not choosing a losing battle you made up in your head.
Pretty much everyone?
Edit: D’oh, I thought this was about Google maps. My bad.
“Apple cares about your privacy”
Not from THEMSELVES, never from themselves.
Like apple maps doesn’t suck enough already?
I wish it was better because that’s the map DDG pulls up in search. Wonder if those ads are going to show in DDG sesrches now.
Surely this time their famous design standards will be applied to their UX.
Surely.
THE reason why i use apple is because I’m not subjected to ads. Is there any point using apple anymore if they’re going to inject ads? Holy shit, Time to go back to android if we’re gonna get ads and instead pay less for a phone.
lol switching an entire phone ecosystem because there might be an ad coming to your area in the form of one single ad in a search query on one single app. bruh, LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Im just enjoying my ad free life with degoogled android
You can trade your iPhone with an Android user who figured if Google is going to force developer certifications for installing apps then there is no point in using Android over iPhone and they might as well switch.
Year of the Linux phone!
…oooh, i sense a business opportunity for an intermediation platform: foneswapp.org, no wait, all electronics in general: eswapp.org, no wait, we can do like used consumer goods: swapp.org, now we’re cooking with gas!..
…register a handful of TLDs, spend an afternoon vibe-coding a prototype, invite over some VCs, revolutionise commerce for the impending societal collapse, father maybe a few hundred children, found a new civilisation that lives in a dome, stay young forever until barbarians come and set fire to our home…
…great idea!..
Well… Here’s hoping KDE Plasma Mobile takes off I guess…
I was going to say the same thing… there’s no point to Google android anymore either. I guess we’re all going to LineageOS.
There’s room for you at Comaps! It’s nice and it works on iOS, FOSS
Just stay away from Magic Earth; they did a rug pull by going from 99¢/year to $20/year without notifying people.
I love Comaps. I have it installed on my Android phone. I contribute to OpenStreet maps when I can.
But, I don’t think Comaps is a realistic replacement for Apple or Google maps.
One: OpenStreet maps is missing a toooon of locations, businesses and residential addresses. Two: having the enter the address in a non-standard way (for the US) City, Street, Building Number, makes finding things even harder. That’s gonna instantly turn away 99% of people.
I still begrudgingly have Google maps installed on my phone… :(
I also have HERE Maps installed on my phone. It’s way more usable than Comaps and it’s not Google. But, it’s not FOSS and still owned by a big corporation. But at least it’s not (entirely) owned by the US (Magic Earth is). For me, I think HERE maps is a decent step away from Google.
I’ll still keep contributing to OpenStreet maps, hoping one day I can switch to Comaps.
Guess its just better in Europe, everything is more dense including the number of OpenStreetMap contributors.
Yeah from what I’ve seen OSM is really well filled out over there. I add what I can in my town in the US, but it’s a lot to keep up with businesses changing hours and whatnot all the time (small town things)
I think at this point in my life I’ve added enough to my home town that I’m comfortable using it as my main map program, I also admit to having here maps as a backup, but I haven’t used it in a minute
Two: having the enter the address in a non-standard way (for the US) City, Street, Building Number, makes finding things even harder.
THAT’S why i always struggled to look up buildings on Comaps! Hell, I wondered why the sesrch was so hard!
My main issue is the lack of traffic data. I wish I didn’t live in a car-centric society, but i do, so I need to know if the route I’m taking is going to be shit.
I read that the one of the differences between Organic Maps and CoMaps is that the server side code for CoMaps is FOSS, while some of the server side code for Organic Maps is not. I hope I understood that correctly. I have Organic Maps installed because it was in the GrapheneOS app store.
If CoMaps has open server-side code, could I create my own map tiles with the best bike routes in my area and self-host them for myself and my friends? I find that google, bing, OpenStreetMap, etc all suck at recognizing good bike routes in my area and hand-curated routes are much better. I’d prefer to hand-curate the best routes color coded based on perceived safety and whether they are daytime only routes or acceptable for nighttime travel. Is something like this doable with CoMaps?
I love Comaps. I have it installed on my Android phone. I contribute to OpenStreet maps when I can.
are the two related?
Open street maps is the back end for comaps and most open source mapping programs
Comaps, OSM And, and other apps use OpenStreet maps as their data source, sometimes as their only data source. So if the data isn’t in OpenStreet maps, it’s not gonna be in Comaps. Comaps is basically a frontend for OpenStreet map data.
thank you. why would I go for comaps instead of open street maps then?
OpenStreet maps is primarily a data source. I guess you could use the website: https://www.openstreetmap.org/
But they don’t have mobile apps.
Holy wah… #2 is a deal breaker for sure. So sad.
I use OsmAnd which I think is also really good. I’ve heard nothing but good things about CoMaps too, like you said, which is a (seemingly well-justified) fork of Organic Maps.
If anyone’s curious about contributing to OpenStreetMap too to make the maps in your area better, I know a bit, and I’d be happy to answer questions, even if they’re just random curiosities. It’s a lot of fun.
How does one define and name an area?
Depends heavily on the editor you’re using. Editor-agnostic, however, is that under the hood, everything uses “tags”, which are effectively key–value pairs that the broader editing community has agreed mean something.
In most editors, you’ll draw the area in a sort of free-form connect-the-dots, and you’ll have a created a blank area once you close the loop (under the hood, this is defined by the placeholder
area=yestag, but seriously don’t worry about directly changing tags unless you’re experienced; just let the editor give you a list of items to choose from).Next, select the area, and your editor should present you with some way to search for what you want. Once you click that, the editor will apply the corresponding tags under the hood and will likely give you a list of properties you can change (for example, if you create a fast food restaurant, it might let you decide if it has a drive thru or not).
I’ll be able to give something a lot more specific once I know the editor, since UIs vary heavily. (Note which I didn’t know at first myself: if you went to OpenStreetMap’s website, made an account, and clicked “Edit”, then you’re using the iD editor.)
It’s my back up for when I have no cell service
I thought this was a joke ad for a dev convention. Come on over and build something great at Comap(p)s 2026! We have a friendly competition where the team who builds the most feature-rich app all get programmer socks!
Are the paths reversed ?
Wow they haven’t even made it good enough for me to use yet and they are already enshittifying it?
That article slurps Apple’s nutsac for having such a great moneymaking idea! Fuck ads. Tired of everything being a vessel for marketing.
This is why Apple users pay more to not use Google stuff…
Fuck this.
Default search engine? Google. Apple Intelligence? Believe it or not, also Google.
But no adverts.
I don’t use any of those
Yup. The first thing i do when i get a new machine/reinstall MacOS/iOS is to change it from google. Fuck google so fucking hard. Anyone who uses Google deserves what they get knowing how much of a shitstain company they are. Apple isn’t that much better, but they are slightly, SLIGHTLY better.
Yes these ads suck, but they are not targeted ads based on your entire history of personal data which is google’s entire business. these are ads shown based on your current location in the maps app. theoretically everyone in your vicinity is getting the same map ads.
doubt
also, fuck ads. people are trying to find destinations, not be sold trash from some shitty corporation like mcdonalds or whatever. don’t care the purpose, or the reasoning… if there’s ads, it’s bought and paid for by some jackoff corp that can rightfully fuck off to high hell.
yes I agree, fuck ads, but fuck targeted ads even harder. The point is if you’re deliberating between apple and Google based on the ads, apple is still not as bad as google. it’s not a binary ads vs no ads issue.
If you’re deliberating between Apple Maps and Google Maps, the only advantage Apple ever had was the lack of ads. Apple’s data is worse, routing is worse, navigation UI is worse (which of the lanes should you be in right now for your next turn), etc. It’s astounding that Apple would enshittify this right now when they’re not even close to being a decent replacement for the primary competition.
it’s always binary fuck all ads issue for me
as i said, “if you’re deliberating between apple and Google” which is how this conversation started.
Maybe but you give them an inch and in a few years the ads will be targeted
So… never read Apples privacy policy huh?
