I mostly agree with the sentiment of this video, but it’s highly biased I feel. On a utilitarian level, everything Muta is criticizing about Windows is absolutely valid. But even as a very experienced desktop computer user, as someone who does not have coding experience or any formal education in the technical side of computing, there are parts of Linux that just cause me to get hung up. If you’re someone who likes to customize deeply and change a lot of really small stuff, you run into rocky patches very fast. Now, I agree that almost anything is possible on Linux, but it’s about the amount of effort it sometimes takes.

For the average user, when they want to change some seemingly basic features, things that aren’t in the settings, eventually, one way or another, you have to use commands. You have to use the terminal for something or other. Some dependency, some change that needs a command to activate. And even if all of that is wrong, and you technically CAN change or acquire everything you need without ever opening the terminal, the problem is that a new user is not going to be able to find a simple answer in a few minutes.

Even with the help of AI, it can still take a long time to troubleshoot what may seem like a basic issue. And like it or not, that matters if you’re trying to get people to switch. People, realistically, can’t be expected to always just “shut up and do the research”. Anyone who’s not a techie, or someone with a lot of patience, is going to run out of gas for this troubleshooting very quickly. I wish I had more suggestions about how to actually fix these problems, but I know that for me they are the main reason I can’t permanently switch from Windows at this point. We’re getting closer, but there is a long road still ahead.

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    I switched to Linux because of Blender and because the program behaves way better on its native OS, so practically speaking if you don’t have any serious reason to switch to it then don’t do it, I know Windows 11 is not very good, no problem go back in windows 10, many people ask about switching on Linux as if they really have to!

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    I really feel like I should do a video of doing basic things in windows vs linux because its redic how slow my windows laptop is relative to linux and it is so not hardware.

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    I never understood the argument of “if it’s not in the UI you may need to use a command to achieve it and it’s scary”.

    On windows, if it’s not in the UI you have to use either a powershell command or update the registry to change it - which are both a very similar experience.

    The only difference I actually see in this point is that Linux has a lot more options.

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      I often had to go to the registry on Windows and the registry is way less user friendly than modifying files on Linux. When we say that we have to use the terminal for more complicated things on Linux, it’s usually just modifying files that are well commented so you know exactly what you’re doing. If you can read of course which isn’t always a given.

      For sure there are scripts and 3rd party apps that can modify the registry, but you can have the same thing on Linux too.

      And today with how advanced KDE and Gnome are, the user needs to go less and less in the files. Almost everything I do is in the home folder too. I require root less and less, mainly to install packages.

      I think it mainly comes down with what users are used to. People are used to the quirks of Windows, so Linux becomes scary and hard. If it was the other way around, Windows would be considered to be complicated. That’s my take.

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      yeah and honestly that sounds like something from a decade ago. I find things are not in the linux ui at the level things are not in the windows ui and if anything more run into having to do registry or powershell with windows. much more often I can find an install in linux that will give me the ui if its not already.

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      In Windows there are tools or 3rd party softwares available to customize literally almost anything. There’s plenty on Linux that I couldn’t say the same for. Granted I may not know where to look in some cases and may have missed it, or it may simply be a result of my lack of experience with Linux in general. But the point is that a new user’s first impressions matter, and if someone who isn’t comfortable doing commands and using non-GUI tools is forced to use them all the time, their patience may run thin faster than others. I believe people should want to learn and they should do the research. But realistically, if the goal is to get as many users to adopt Linux as possible, this is a barrier to entry.

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        1. It’s not a barrier to entry. 2. Who says there is a goal to get as many users to adopt Linux?

        Linux survives with or without an influx of new users. This isn’t a religion. The need or desire to go convert people to using Linux is misguided. Those that want or need it will find it. Please don’t adopt one of religion’s worst traits and apply it to Linux, that being the need to spread the message like a cancer.

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    It’s fine to watch people critique Linux and compare it with Windows, but in my honest opinion, Mutahar is not worth your time.

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      Yeah I mostly agree. It’s been made pretty clear by not only this post but just watching Mutahar’s content in the past that he likes to sound more educated than he is. On many topics, not just Linux and computing. This video just happened to spark some thought for me and I felt like putting it into words. I just didn’t think about people’s perception of the actual content creator because I feel like this could have been a conversation even without referencing the video at all.

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    I stopped being a fan of Mutahar a while back…but am I really the only person who noted the uploaded date?

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    I can’t help but wonder how those people you speak of use a computer at all tbh, when windows requires troublehooting as well, especially with how much of a buggy mess windows 11 is.

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    Well, if you’ve always been a Windows user, I think it’s normal to have trouble with another operating system. You certainly can’t expect to just install it and know how to do everything. You probably learned to use Windows when you were young, when your mind was more flexible, which is why it seems easier to you. I’ve also noticed that many users tend to ignore problems on Windows, while highlighting those on Linux; I think this is because they expect errors on Linux. Linux actually has error handling that Windows can only dream, you can log everything and trace the root cause of the problem. With Windows, often the only option you have is to reboot and hope the problem goes away.

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    Hoping this is scripted and a joke.

    Dude has zero idea how computers work, and is presenting as a “tech person”?

    Use whatever you want, but don’t be an ignorant asshole and put shit like this out of you have no concept of the topic aslt hand.

    What a dumbass.

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      Don’t know if you’re talking to me or Mutahar, but this is exactly what people can’t stand about some Linux users. It’s why the stereotype of “gatekeeper” Linux users exists. Because instead of engaging with the discussion in any way, you got triggered and decided to yell insults over the internet. That’s pretty fucking sad.

      And to be clear, I don’t like Mutahar much either. He’s very biased and I usually don’t watch his stuff. I was bored and clicked on this video. I also try to make a habit of watching creators I have an aversion to, because I want to avoid confirmation bias. Not trying to present as holier than thou, just being honest.

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        I usually don’t watch his stuff.

        And it seems you didn’t watch this video fully either, or you weren’t paying attention. Muta’s an idiot and a tool who routinely masks inability to do anything with drama… Because he’s not very good at any of it.

        He doesn’t dig into the reasons for any of his issues and readily admits that he just wants it done for him “I just want things to work”

        The real problem with this post is you! Coming here casting this as some fundamental problem with Linux and posting it. Why bother?

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        It’s not about “Linux Users”, it’s the fact that the issues described are MIS-identified because the operator who claims to be proficient in technology has zero idea what in the hell they are talking about.

        Knowing how to navigate the Windows OS is like 2% of what a “technology guru” (this guy said it) needs to be fluent in. Windows in 2026 is more irrelevant than it ever has been since 3.1, and this guy is acting like becau6his fluency is in Windows he’s has some knowledge about computers in general.

        He then goes to explain IN DEPTH AND DETAIL how he does not.

        Rag on me all you want, but this is not a Linux person being a gatekeeper or withholding. This is a person with little technical knowledge missing the point and misrepresenting themselves.

        Fuck this guy.

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    The problem with this idea is that you could basically summarize it as being “difficult as a new user to make advanced changes”.

    Your average non-technical user does great on Linux. There’s nothing to unlearn from Windows. Its the Windows “power users” that crash and burn because they keep trying to force Windows logic into a non-Windows environment, get upset about it, complain it doesn’t work, and then leave.

    I’m not sure what basic feature you’re referring to, but if you are installing dependencies than that is not a basic feature. That is additional software that probably maintains its own configuration. I would also argue that a non-technical user, much like they would in Windows, is not going to be trying to make changes like that anyway.

    In the end, I think this is the real issue:

    But even as a very experienced desktop computer user…

    No, you are not a very experienced desktop computer user, you are an experienced Windows user. In Linux, you are a new user trying to leverage the non-applicable OS you came from and struggling because of that.

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    Funny, did we see the same video?

    I saw a guy who recently switched to Linux do an “April Fools” as an excuse to complain about Windows more, and explain why he’s sticking with Linux.

    “Even with the help of AI”

    I see you’re just shitposting.

    Muta is a basic dudebro. Is he good at technology? No. Is he a good baseline for “can most people do it?” Almost, yeah. And that’s what his video is actually about if you bothered to watch it.

    Unless you have some Niche webcam or hardware MIDI controller, just about everything is supported out of the box. Unless you wanna dive into Gentoo to start? Its surprisingly simple here.

    For deep customizations? There’s manuals. There’s guides where you can do the advanced Gentoo-stuff in the terminal by just copying-and-pasting without a clue what you’re doing or why.

    The community is something to be proud of - what we’ve built, what we’ve made.

    We’re still working on audio composition type stuff for DJs, but we’ve come a long way. The free stuff you want works better here, and even Photoshop runs great in WINE.

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    I’m just spit balling here. Is it possible that the intent of this post is not to have a discussion about OSs but to boost the YouTube views? It’s just a vibe I’m getting. New account, very eager to reply, posting this out of the blue.

    If the video is on YouTube, they make a thumbnail pulling a dumb face, and it gets presented in a forum like this with a whiff of controversy about it, personally, I’ll refuse to look at it.

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      Genuinely, this was not posted to boost the video. The video’s only role in this is that I watched it and it was what made me think about the subject, so I made the post. Don’t read too much into it.