• otp@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    It would be very odd if the US or Israel did it, because this started when Iran wanted to stop communications among citizens who were protesting the government.

    TL;DR, yes. It was Iran. It began before the attacks on Iran (back when it was Iran attacking its own people)

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      It began before the attacks on Iran

      Not true. Iranian people have been attacked by murderous US+EU sanctions killing tens of thousands of them every year for decades now. The protests were literally engineered by the US as a form of justification for the war, look at Iranian Rial exchange prices on the months before the protests. Hell, Trump literally admit a few days ago to sending weapons to the “protestors”.

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        Iran’s government has done plenty to deserve those sanctions. War is wrong no matter which side does it, and Iran is very guilty.

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          I wish you and your family never have to go through the “deserved sanctions” of the USA and EU, which together murder half a million people yearly since 1975 per latest medical research. I’m sure you don’t believe US citizens should starve to death for the actions of their government.

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            saddly nobody has found a better option. Iran has had particularly evil leaders for decades. (Why is interesting history itself - but not relavant to today)

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              saddly nobody has found a better option

              I guess all Yanks should be starved for choosing the wrong president? Or is that something you reserve to nonwhites?

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                Or you can make war and kill innocents. Or you can turn your back and watch them kill innocents.

                there are other variations, but I have yet to see an option that isn’t awful.

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                    I don’t have a choice. Either you defend Iran for funding everyone who wants to kill the Jews, or you defend the US and Israel for attacking Iran. There is no middle ground, either way you are defending genocidal maniacs. I hate both options.

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                  You didn’t respond: would you enact starvation on Yanks to push for regime change?

                  The people enacting these sanctions, i.e. US government, are as of today explicitly talking about eliminating a civilization, the literal definition of genocide.

                  Why are you defending genocide?

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        Sure, and Iran isn’t under a regime now, right? They shut down the internet because they didn’t like what was said over it.