Some comrades over at Hexbear have organized a donation drive for Palestine and, over the past few weeks, have managed to raise over $1500 for verified Palestinian fundraisers. The fediverse is a good place full of good people.

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    As I said:

    If you’re interested and worried about the well-being of Ukrainian people, we can argue if you want about the biggest demographic crisis in Ukraine since WW2

    It seems that you’re not genuinely interested in that and you’re arguing purely in nationalist terms, so yeah, you’ve proven your bad faith and your lack of willingness to discuss the current issues of Ukraine outside your pro-western framework. So yeah, I guess we are done.

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        You made claims you didn’t back up and moved the goal posts twice, and finally resolved to calling them a tankie.

        You’re “pro Ukraine” in the same way Zionists are “pro Israel”, they cannot do wrong and they cannot be criticized. Anyone who criticizes Ukraine is a Russian tankie bot.

        Ukraine does have a Nazi history and a Nazi problem, and that’s separate from and not a defense of Russia or Putin, and rejecting it as tankie logic simply because Putin used it as a talking point is intellectually dishonest.

        https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ukraine-has-nazi-problem-vladimir-putin-s-denazification-claim-war-ncna1290946

        And Zelenski is an unapologetic genocide supporting Zionist, why would anyone collecting funds for victims of Israeli genocide also collect funds for its cheerleaders.

        We can accept that Russia is wrong and Putin is evil and the war on Ukraine is bad without sanctifying Ukraine and pretending it has no problems.

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          He must have posted over on his hexbear account.

          Tankie brigade is here to make sure everyone knows that they think ukraine is filled with Nazis…and now Zelenskyy is a Zionist…tankies gonna tank I guess.

          Another one added to the tag group.

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            Jesus Christ you’re hopeless.

            I even provided a liberal western media source for you, but you’re right, suggesting Nazis exist in Ukraine (where they welcomed Hitler and exterminated upwards of 1.6 million Jews) is tankie brigading.

            And dismissing that zelenski is a Zionist is… I don’t even know how to label that, you’re just shoving your fingers in your ears and screaming “LALALA TANKIE TANKIE TANKIE”.

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              suggesting Nazis exist in Ukraine (where they welcomed Hitler and exterminated upwards of 1.6 million Jews)

              You mean ‘The Ukraine’, as in, a member state of the USSR as it existed at that time, and not ‘Ukraine’ a sovereign country, which it has been since 1991.

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              So does russia also have a nazi problem then? Where they allied with hitler? Or you just want to keep spewing tankie shit to fit russias narrative?

              And if I can remember correctly…jews aren’t exactly fans of nazis…or are you one of those Holocaust deniers as well?

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        Thought-terminating cliche, easier to disregard someone with coherent arguments and a humane outlook on Ukraine than to engage in a framework contradicting the propaganda in your nation’s terms. I’ve explicitly told you how I’ve hosted Ukrainian refugees in my home, and I haven’t told you how much I’ve donated to Ukrainian individuals, but you’d rather disregard me as a “Ukrainian hater” despite my actions.

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            Second thought-terminating cliche in a row!

            I keep spewing the Russian propaganda such as me denying that the reason why Russia invaded Ukraine was to curb Nazism and arguing that that’s just propaganda to justify it internally?

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              I provided links and users…and you denied it…

              Hell their is even a user in this comment that’s saying Zelenskyy is a Zionist but also that Ukraine is filled with Nazis…make that one work.