• ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      6 hours ago

      My mistake, it wasn’t Harvard, it was Phillip Cook using the NCVS (National Crime Victimization Survey) Data. It’s only been 8yr since I read the article, please forgive my indiscretions. In my defense Harvard is also mentioned.

      https://www.npr.org/2018/04/13/602143823/how-often-do-people-use-guns-in-self-defense

      Needless to say I disagree with the disqualification of defensive display categorically, but understand why it would be done for official estimates (though that would mean the official would be purposefully low, by the nature if many of them not having police reports or being one’s word against another even if they exist there’s no real reliable way to collect those statistics, so I think it’s best to leave them out.) Mostly I think it should just be kept in mind that the official estimate is based off of incomplete data and is low, lest we end up with ridiculous estimates like 3,000,000.

      And yet still, Harvard the NCVS data* (whoops lol) estimates defensive gun use as 40k higher than gun deaths, and that’s with less than 20% of Americans carrying daily. To say it’s so rare it’s a myth is to say all gun death (60k), gun homicide (12k), accidental gun injuries (~1,500) and deaths (~500), are also myths due to rarity. And also the OG Black Lotus card at 1,100 printed.

      The rate is far lower than the rate of gun accidents, or even gun homicides though.

      Is still indeed not true, regardless of if I misremembered just who said that one detail from 8y ago.

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        5 hours ago

        Again, your unsourced bullshit is not an actual summation of verifiable data.

        It’s just right-wing talking points, dude, with the veneer of pseudoscience.

        More guns = more people die from guns. It’s not any more difficult than that.

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          2 hours ago

          I mean you can disagree with the accredited crime researcher and the NCVS data he used (it is a move I guess) all you want, but I’ve posted the source where I got my claims, so “unsourced” is verifiably false, it’s right there.

          More water = more people drown, it’s not any more difficult than that, ban water.