There’s 600,000,000 out there already that are not going anywhere, the price isn’t going down any time soon even if we make them illegal. Not to mention pipe shotguns, the LutySMG, the FGC9, countless reloaders with tonnes of components, and trillions of rounds of stashed ammo across the whole US civilians’ collections, good luck. Even if people would comply with an Aus style buyback, that would be astronomically expensive at the scale required to even get the percentage of guns they got (which was like 20%, and they are now back up to their 1996 amount of guns at 3.2mil.)

Those were different times. So you’re afraid of vikings invading if guns were to be banned?

You’re the one that thinks nobody ever invaded someone’s home before guns existed lol, that’s on you.

You’re privileged enough to tell poor people in bad neighborhoods to “just move somewhere better bro” because that’s exactly what you did. Do you think the people in bad neighborhoods stay for the ice cream trucks? No it’s because they can’t afford to move to a nicer area, hell sometimes the nicer area moves to them and pushes them out because now they can’t afford that neighborhood anymore, it’s called gentrification.

Detroit is a city often tied to black people and poverty and was usually used as every racist uncle’s example of racist bullshit, though now that is becoming Chicago it’s still basically a “Ah this is a 60-65yo republican I’m talking to” dogwhistle. Like I said I assume by “privileged European” you didn’t know that.

Would be nice if they didn’t have access to guns right?

Sure, but they did, and my money is on “not legally,” but either way they did. There’s 600,000,000+ already out there with no registry and 3d printed glocks are a thing now. They can get them and will continue to be able to, pandora’s box has been opened.

Also if you look back far enough in history: blind bet, I bet you 1,000 internet points home invasions existed before firearms. Likely before gunpowder even, actually. I mean Viking raids alone…

Selling a bit of weed is being a master criminal? Mate, what rock are you living under?

Ah you’re from a country that has never heard of sarcasm, my apologies.

Wtf, did he sell it in a back alley to a stranger or something?

Parking lot of a closed-for-the-night Veterinarian’s office on a main road to a regular customer we considered a friendly acquaintance up until that point, why? We know his government name and have met his brother (of course, we didn’t snitch and afaik he is now in prison, or maybe was, for robbing a gas station). He still stabbed my friend and sent him to the hospital. Idk what to tell you, I agree he should probably not have stabbed my friend over 2oz but he did, so, sorry?

Again, would have been great if no one had guns. Ban that shit!

Again, probably illegally possessed and won’t be gone anytime soon even if they were illegal to possess. And even if they were legal, they are already there.

Bro, maybe move to another neighborhood which isn’t a fucking war zone.

Rich and privileged European disconnected from the reality of America? Why am I not surprised?

there are places where the violence is much lower than other places like Detroit for example.

I’m going to assume based on the above observation you don’t understand the subtle racism here. It’s there though, for future reference.

Yeah that was around when they disappeared around here, maybe even a bit before that. Well hopefully they do still have it, it can come in handy.

I have lived in some pretty shit neighborhoods lol, it seems to happen more frequently the worse the area is that you’re in. Some areas would be even worse, many would be better.

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Lmao that is pretty fucking funny honestly. Fair enough I suppose I overestimated their ability, I thought they used them all the time for like hat permit or dog license verification.

This is true, but also there’s no way this wouldn’t have been reported rather quick, like not just online but within 5min someone would have been all:

“Oi 999? The bridge on Crumpet Lane 'as fallen down, I can’t get to me Chippy!”

Or

“Oi wot was that loud bang outside me flat?! Made me spill me vindaloo! Holy Smeg the bridge collapsed!”

Or like isn’t the UK the most surveiled country with their camera system? Is this bridge not on camera already? For that the AI telling location would probably be handy too I’d just be surprised they don’t have it on security cams.

Was that recent? They all did around here too but stopped, and we have a lot of hunters too. Hopefully they still do!

Well let’s see.

A friend of mine had his house broken into while he and another friend were there, they were held up at gunpoint and pistol whipped and had their safe (among other things) robbed. We had to glue his head back together because we didn’t have money for stitches (of course they’d just been robbed so that didn’t help, but also good ol’ no insurance played a part in that). They moved, cops never caught the guys. Wasn’t “their enemy,” was just a home invasion. He had locks too, and they didn’t help.

A little later in that same neighborhood, another friend of mine was selling some weed to a guy (I know I know he was a master criminal because weed was illegal so he deserved to die or whatever) and the guy stabbed him and stole the weed. He did have to go to the hospital but he luckily did live. Big ol’ scar on his gut now forever though and I don’t think it was worth it for the story. Wasn’t my friend’s enemy (actually we thought dude was cool, not a friend but an aquaintance), until he stabbed him of course.

I moved from that neighborhood to another across town, and luckily we only had people stealing from unlocked cars there, but we did hear gunshots in the distance every night and I found a crushed .40sw round right next to my mailbox that someone must have dropped doing hoodrat shit. Thankfully nothing happened beyond that, but had it, it never hurts to be prepared. None of them were my enemy either, and they never decided to make me one.

Moved from there after a while to a “safer” (the heroin dealers live in the next apartments over, not my direct complex, so it’s “safer” kinda sorta bur we get some bleed off) neighborhood I’m in now. Went to the store at one point in 2019, and in the parking lot a guy pulled a knife on me and my then-gf. Luckily after all the previous experiences and a few other close calls, I had bought a gun and got a permit to carry it. I moved my concealment and put the hand on the grip, and he turned and walked away. Instead of being stabbed or whatever he wanted to do, I bought bread. I call that a win, and thankfully without even having to fire a shot. No clue who that guy was, definitely wasn’t “my enemy” until y’know the whole knife thing put us at odds immediately upon meeting.

I’m also nice to people, I also “don’t have any enemies,” so are my friends, but it seems not everyone needs to think of you as an “enemy” before they attack you, some I thought were friendly acquaintances, some my friends or I had never even met before, in fact not one time has it been “well I was mean to that guy so now he pulled a knife,” not one has been “our enemies.” The world only works like that on procedural dramas, in the real world ime it is usually someone you know and are ostensibly friendly with, or someone you’ve never met.

Hell, bonus story, once I was taking out the trash to the dumpster and walked past a guy on the way, so I politely said “hey hows it going,” y’know as ya do, and he responded “Fuck you american you come to africa we kill you” yadda yadda blah blah. I laughed and said “ok you have a nice day too” and kept going, luckily he walked off down the street shouting about killing me instead of actually trying to, but yeah maybe that helps illustrate that being polite and not having “enemies” isn’t necessarily the magical protective ward you think it is. No clue what was wrong with that dude (had to be something, that isn’t a normal reaction to “hey how’s it going,”) I’m just glad he didn’t get more violent than threatening my life (like, threatening is fine, just don’t start acting on it), but whatever is wrong with him it wasn’t my fault lol.

So yeah it’s not all about “enemies,” nor “locks” even if you were an agoraphobe.

Has the highest amount

WhAt, NoT eVeN tRiPlE?!?!

Lmao ok bud, call me when someone catches up. Cute try though.

If they had IDPA or USPSA events they probably would, to be fair. The Olympics only have like four shooting events (coincidentally the ones less popular in America) there’s way more shooting sports than that.

Besides, if you look at the wiki’s medal table like I just did after you made me curious, it seems to indicate the US has 121 medals (incl all metals) for shooting, and the next highest China has 77, so, I mean, I guess we kinda do anyway?

You can’t really kill most ideas (it seems especially not the bad ones), they just lay dormant for a while, maybe change shape a little, maybe change location, but they come back. Many things in life are cyclical, just like fashion trends coming back in style so do ideas, and unfortunately those are usually not limited by nostalgia.

Unfortunately, even if it did “never come back” we can’t verify that “never” until the sun explodes (assuming that kills all the humans, if we get off planet before that all bets are off) as “never” can only truly be known retroactively.

And tbh, if we did have that utopian world devoid of fascism (all authoritarianism, really) and crime for eternity, guns wouldn’t be an issue anymore anyway to necessitate a ban, at that point fuck it, have fun!

Tbh some schools used to, kinda. All the ones around me used to have a rifle team until the early-mid 00s (some got rid of it earlier). I’m not sure they’re allowed to anymore now that schools are federally mandated gun free zones (which seems to be the only thing that mandate stopped by the looks of it.)

Btw

When we can guarantee that nazism will never, ever rise again

That’s a “never.” Remember like 8y ago when everyone said “it could never happen here?” Well…

Idk why but you reminded me of this story lol.

I had a neighbor for a while who would walk around talking to himself. The closest I got to him, I was walking to the dumpsters with the trash and he was walking the other way towards me. As I was walking by I nodded and said “how’s it going” y’know as ya do, and he responded with a totally normal “fuck you american you come to africa I kill you yadda yadda.” I laughed and said “Ok you have a nice one too” and everything was cool, but I probably would have been worried if I hadn’t had a gun concealed on me at the time.

Luckily I didn’t have to use it! Closest I’ve got was a different dude who pulled a knife on me and my then-gf in a parking lot in '19. I moved the concealment and grabbed the grip and for some unknown reason he decided to walk away without pressing the issue further. I assume he found someone else to rob, no clue what happened after I bought my groceries and left.

Well that is a pretty big hurdle, most of my driving is on the road lol.

Whatever that is in the pic, no thanks. I want one of these bad boys:

I mean at least for fedora apparently yes. You guys spying on me wtf?

One would get you ~2-3 bags of heroin but black tar heroines haven’t been sold since the 1860s in the US thankfully, so I couldn’t quote you a price on that.