• KnitWit@lemmy.world
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    He says that should Iran develop nuclear capabilities then they possibly would have had to take action, and then he specifically calls out that the current war of aggression is wrong. That isn’t the same position as what you are pushing.

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      He repeated Trump claim that iran is developing nukes so he did use the same lie that would allow the administration he was part of to attack Iran.

      Even if they was developping nuks. The usa still has no right to start a war for it

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        In Saddam, Gaddafi, Khameini Sr (and in a sense Ukraine), the West has also shown that eliminating/diminishing your nuclear program to not be a viable long-term safety plan anyway.

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      The Burger Reich has been claiming that Iran is on the verge of developing nuclear weapons literally for decades now. Anybody with even a minimally functioning brain understands that this is just a pretext for starting a war.

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        And yet, nowhere during Biden’s term did he start a war with Iran. Look, I really don’t want to be put in the position of defending Biden, but some guy years later saying maybe if things had worked out a certain way something would have had to be done is just shitty media running cover for what Trump is actually doing. This is a cbs show trying to help push the narrative that Trump put out there of ‘they all wanted to do it and only I had the balls.’

        There are countless reasons to attack the Biden administration, but focusing on stupid shit like this is pointless and only serves to divide the left and to bolster Trumps bullshit claims.

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            23 hours ago

            By getting someone like me arguing with someone like yogthos about whether Biden (who neither of us even like) would have done something in his second term that he didn’t even run for. This entire topic is moot.

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          Biden literally said Israel can attack iranian oil facilities. Many exerices was made to prepare for a war with Iran

          Chariots of Fire" (2022): A month-long exercise that simulated a multi-front war, including long-range strike capabilities specifically designed to reach Iranian nuclear facilities.

          ​Aerial Refueling Readiness: Israel accelerated the acquisition and testing of KC-46A Pegasus tankers to enable fighter jets (like the F-35) to reach Iran and return without landing in neighboring countries.

          ​"Juniper Oak" (2023): The largest-ever joint U.S.-Israel military exercise. While the Biden administration framed it as “regional stability” training, it was widely viewed as a rehearsal for destroying hardened targets, featuring live-fire drills with B-52 bombers and precision-guided munitions.

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          Biden admin only facilitated a literal genocide in Gaza and a proxy war in Ukraine. What he says, very plainly, is that Biden admin would have done the same atrocities that Trump admin is doing. You live in a fascist state buddy, and you better start acknowledging it because anything else makes you a collaborator.

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            So spend your time criticizing those two things, as opposed to a thing that he did not do but cbs claims maybe he would have. Which of course is also ignoring the fact that he wasn’t even on the final ballot.

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              You’re working very hard to miss the point here which is that Biden admin would have been willing to commit this atrocity as well. That’s what he’s saying. It’s not a hypothetical of whether or not Biden would’ve done the same thing Trump did. It’s a declaration of intent and it illustrates the continuity of policy. It doesn’t matter which shit stain rules over you, they all follow the same genocidal agenda. And by trying to carry water for them, you’re directly enabling this fascist system to keep going.