• Jiral@lemmy.org
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    What else would you expect from a group ideologically close to the AfD?

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    “My statement was obviously an exaggeration. It was not meant as advice to be taken literally,” he said. “The overwhelming majority of men are not violent and are not criminals.”

    I guess better advice would be how to get background information on prospective partners and, if there’s no history in the courts or from former partners, what some red flags to look for might be. How do you differentiate the safe men from the dangerous ones?

    From the article, the chief and the reporter got threats afterward. A bit ironic to want to do violence to someone who warned that relationships can become violent.

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      There is no way to predict the future. A lot of violence in relationship takes months/years to appear. Plenty of violent and abusive people have no criminal record or red flags. And the ones who are really good at it… know how to manipulate people and tend to be very charming and attractive. There is no ‘standard profile’ of an abuser.

      Further lots of bad partners only drop their good person act once they have reached a level of security in the relationship. I had one girlfriend who only started physically attacking me once we had reached the stage of moving in. Because she finally felt she ‘had’ me and she could be her ‘real self’, and that ‘real self’ was a terrible person and her fake self had been wonderful. Her ‘feeling safe’ with me was what allowed her to slap, punch, and kick me. She was totally shocked and BETRAYED that I left her for her physical abuse, because I was a stupid man who didn’t understand that “I had made her really angry and she couldn’t help herself because she loves me so much!”

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        I think it’s fair to say histories and red flags are not enough. But they are something. You will have false negatives (the guy hid it or his personality has changed for the worse) and false positives (the guy has changed for the better or the red flag wasn’t a good indicator).

        You can’t predict behavior with certainty, but you can improve your odds.

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          You can also generate a lot of false positives and shut yourself off from good people by assuming they are guilty into proven innocent.

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            Can we agree that women put themselves at enhanced risk if they date men convicted of murdering past girlfriends?

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              This might be going too far. I mean anyone could murder their girlfriend in the right circumstances. I think it’s far more reasonable to suggest a red flag after they’ve murdered perhaps three girlfriends. Certainly four.

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                You’re right. There’s just no way to be certain. Without certainty, we know nothing.

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        There’s plenty of men in similar situations. I have heard men basically describing that they have been sexually assaulted without them even understanding that they are victims. I got friends who would be considered victims of domestic violence if they were women

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    This is how I know being gay isn’t a choice. I wish so bad I was attracted to women but my woman brain finds men attractive exclusively which makes avoiding them difficult unless I want to become celibate, which I do not.

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    I mean, yeah if you want to be perfectly safe… you shouldn’t ever leave the house or eat food either.

    But it’s pretty hard to do anything in life if you can’t leave the house or eat food.

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      What a stupid thing to say. Food doesn’t rape me or murder me after being attracted to me and finding out I am trans.

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        men don’t either.

        rapists rape you. murders murder you.

        rape and murder or not exclusive behaviors to any gender.

        perhaps you should stop blaming men, and start blaming individuals.

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        But if the food is rotten or contaminated in can kill you

        The same way a bad man can kill you

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    Per the statistics of violent behavior men should not be around other men.

    Men are statistically more likely to be violent than all other groups defined by gender.

    However, there are far better groupings of humans to use when it comes to predisposition for violence than “gender” (for example, “people espousing rightwing ideologies” display a higher tendency for violent behavior) and the thing that needs questioning here is why the German police association chief purposefully chose to use a grouping of humans with a lower correlation to violent behavior rather than one whose members are far more likely to engage in violent behavior, and the same questioning applies to the “journalist” that wrote the article.

    This shit stinks of “stirring identitarianism to avoid pointing finger at certain specific groups”, kinda like how the same shit is relentlessly used in Neoliberal politics to distract people from the size, scope and effects of Wealth Inequality.

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    I really want to know how the data on gender violence is collected. In Italy we use the data from collectives who consider an extreme violent act of manipulation and control of women’s body even stuff like expressing an opinion on an outfit or the makeup. They will give women found on social media a questionary of 7 questions to answer with yes/no/I don’t know. I don’t think this is a rigorous way to collect data

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      “Men” is not a race and it’s not even sexist. It was just hyperbole that some people chose to take seriously to be offended. Though there might be some merit to it sounding a bit like victim blaming since it’s advising potential victims to do something that they’re unlikely to do, which could be weaponized to blame them for being a victim later.

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        Just talking about the immigrants that are rapping people. It’s happening all across Europe right now.

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            Did i say anything about race?

            People like you are putting women in danger buy not acknowledging the issue with the increase rapes happening across Europe. You make me sick.

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              Are you too stupid to understand what “Fuck off” means? Would fit the usual racist assholes tbf

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                God damn youre room temp iq is really limiting your ability to have discussions with people online. I guess being data driven and supporting women isn’t your thing.

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      Let’s compare Poland and Germany. Neighbouring countries.

      Poland rape rate: 1.29 per 100.000

      Germany rape rate: 15.5 per 100.000

      Both are measured in 2023.

      Poland foreign born population: 2.2% - 2.6% (60% of which are Ukrainians).

      Germany foreign born population: 17.3% (6% of which are Ukrainian).

      While I’m not claiming causality, there is at least correlation.

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        Seems like a really simple next step to determine what % of rapes were performed by foreign born. Stats you gave are so disconnected as to be worthless.

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          Violence starts in socially degraded contexts, no matter what kind of it. If we don’t give immigrants an opportunity to integrate or at least become functional, they will turn violent. This also happens with nationals of course but it’s not as likely

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          I might be stretching it a bit, but maybe the immigrants are unwillingly being used by the right-wing to expand, which probably does rape more people?

          If that seemed too confusing: More immigrants = more right-wingers = more rapists

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          2% in Poland, 40% in Germany. However the moment they get citizenship in Germany they get classified as German suspects, and you get citizenship after 5 years of living there.