The recent surge in fuel prices due to the war in Iran has spurred demand for electric vehicles around the world, and Chinese car makers are making the most of the opportunity.

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    6 days ago

    Yes. But as an American I want to thrive with byd here!

    They’re just better electric cars than what we can get…

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      6 days ago

      Cheeto Benito inadvertently doing more to drive renewables and electric cars than any previous incentives definitely isn’t something i had on my bingo card.

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    6 days ago

    The whole world is starting to find out that they can thrive without the usa, now that they have to (unless they kiss the ring). Fuck, it’s just like Stephen King’s novel “The Stand”.

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      6 days ago

      You guys either already have them or will very soon. I haven’t checked the progress lately, but it’s certainly moving forward.

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        I haven’t gotten to the point of actually finding where to get them, but my research so far has told me that the number of cars being imported is limited at least to start, so I’m expecting them to be somewhat hard to get. Makes me wonder if allowing them was more about leverage for deals with the US rather than truly trying to distance ourselves from US reliance.

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          Yeah, could just be a political move to try and show the US you can do shit without them. Still, good move. I hope you can get one. My wife and I have BYDs, have had them for 3 years, no complaints whatsoever.

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    7 days ago

    Tesla had pioneer advantage

    The Chinese will make better vehicles more efficiently and cheaper

    That should make everyone happy

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      I’m certainly very happy with my Huawei watch. Obviously a totally different product by a different manufacturer, but China can clearly make quality stuff that’s affordable.

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        Indeed I’ve been using Xiaomi phones exclusively for well over a decade

        Not the best feature set maybe but cheap as chips and highly functional

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      6 days ago

      They have taken over technological lead with EVs a good while ago. Regarding batteries themselves they always have been in the lead anyway.

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    Interesting, because I heard recent reports of huge amounts of inventory and large upfront manufacturing costs painting a picture of a company with extremely large amounts of debt to service. Some likening it to the Evergrande property company.

    I doubt it’s on that scale, but I could easily believe BYD is another hyper accelerated company with shaky fundamentals.

    Edit: This appears to be the background

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      Even the article you linked states that there is no definitive evidence on the source of the fire.

      BYD claims a contractor mishandled equipment and ignited insulation material, which sparked the greater incident. Others speculate that a faulty battery was the source of the fire. Nobody is talking about body panels… and a faulty electric motor definitely can start a fire.

      Nobody knows for certain yet, so I don’t know why you’re painting such a strong narrative… other than to antagonize BYD with sensationalism.

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    7 days ago

    Electric cars are a not the future. Public transit is.

    Electric cars exist to bail out the automotive industry. They will become the albatross around Chinas neck as their population ages out of consumption.

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    8 days ago

    Sure wish rich dicks weren’t holding back innovation in my country!

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    Pretty sure they’ve been doing fine without the US market for years.

    (It’s going to be interesting to see what happens when BYD sets up dealerships just north of the border, since Canada has given them the okay to import a certain number of vehicles per year.)

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      (It’s going to be interesting to see what happens when BYD sets up dealerships just north of the border, since Canada has given them the okay to import a certain number of vehicles per year.)

      Better to look at Australia. Low tariffs only apply to 50,000 cars made in China, which include Volvo and Teslerrr. This means the cars they import will be expensive.

      But Canada tried an experiment with BYD buses, they set up an assembly plant near Toronto in 2019 and the buses were so bad, no one ordered them because they broke in testing. Toronto ordered 25 and sued to get their money back, and by 2023, BYD Bus Canada was shut down after building a whopping 10 buses.

      Buying a new model from established car makers is a bad idea. The reality is there is no long term data on these Chinese EVs.

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        London (UK) has been successfully running BYD EV buses for years with no major issues. They’re cheaper than the diesels to run and quieter. Not sure why Canada had so much trouble.

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          I was curious about that so tried googling ….

          Canadian buses were

          • earlier models - I see years like 2018
          • at least some were built in a new plant in Canada
          • part of the blame was lack of spare parts
          • part of the blame was limited range, especially in winter

          London buses

          • newer. I see years like 2024
          • no real winter
          • I see articles about a new larger battery to fix range issues
          • appeared to have similar problems, including a major recall for fire risk

          Maybe London benefitted from newer models and doesn’t get as cold as canada