The stupidity of these lawmakers is beyond wild. How the fuck is this real?
I have a similar idea, let’s prosecute the police when they fail to catch criminals and punish them instead. A killer got away? Death penalty for the police officer in charge. That will make the killers think twice!
Or even better, let’s prosecute politicians when their laws backfire and do more damage than good.
I bet you a dollar that all of them are technologically illiterate.
Wait a second… how can they enforce this legislation when a VPN is masking the user’s location? How do they know a user using a VPN is from Utah?
Correct me if I’m wrong here, but aren’t the users they’re trying to regulate the exact subsection of users that they don’t have the ability to identify as being citizens of Utah?
Like if a user appears to be in Utah, then they’re probably not using a vpn. And if the user appears to be from out of state, then they could be using a vpn, but also Utah law doesn’t apply to those people because they’re not from Utah (as far as they know)… So essentially this law can’t actually apply to… anyone?
I think they check with the ISP or something.
This from the people who elected a notorious pedophile, “thinking” that he would find the real pedophiles.
utah must have a porn problem, because they have pretty high traffic to PH, or its affiliates.
Its the Mormon State
I’m so weary of everything getting a little bit worse every day.
I’m sure we all used to be excited about the future of the internet but now it’s just shit.
I’m glad I at least got to enjoy the golden age of the internet before enshittification started to infect everything.
I used to see technology as our only hope and now I dread the new hells we’re creating.
Ah Utah
The medieval backward heartland of the USA
Good thing my firm doesn’t have an office in UT; we’re all on a VPN to work from home.
Generally speaking, most VPNs used for business are a split tunnel, and aren’t forwarding all of your traffic, just the traffic relevant to your company resources that would otherwise be inaccessible unless you were on-site. So your internet traffic and regular browsing are still sent as if you had no VPN connection at all.
I don’t think that’s actually true. Most route traffic through malware/protection software which would be bypassed by split vpns.
There are also a number of attacks that target this sort of VPN setup so it’s my understanding it’s generally not a good idea.
Routing is something you can control client-side. Well at least you can configure that all traffic should be routed over the VPN. If your company provides an exit to the internet over VPN is another issue, but I suppose most do.
Not on the company provided computers we used on my last job guess they would just be illegal
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Get a list of every dumbass politician who voted this through, and access their campaign websites through a VPN from a computer in Utah. Boom.
Self owned.
Politicians will be exempt. That ain’t that stupid.
They didn’t write this law, the lobbyists did.
This is just another dog and pony show. If the company doesn’t have any offices or assets in utah, then they don’t have to care. Utah can censor it’s own internet if it doesn’t like it.
This law simply has no legs to stand on.The point is it will spread. Unless you can convince people to jump to i2p en masse it not going to end well.
I have to wonder how a webtorrent based setup on Yggdrasil would perform…
It’ll be federal soon though.
Yeah, I was wondering how on earth this would work. If my organization doesn’t operate or host in Utah and they file suit against me why wouldn’t I tell them to pound sand?
IT’S FOR THE KIDS, YOU COMMIE!
Inb4 Republicans pass a law to make offeting your offspring to powerful pedophiles mandatory
These aren’t “age checks”…it’s identity tracking.
It’s literally going to be easier for websites to just block all Utah IPs and Geolocations.
But that doesn’t fix this. If someone actually from Utah uses a non-Utah IP to access data in a manner not approved by Utah, they can be held liable. The only way to get around this is, aside from the law being struck down, is for companies out to operate outside the legal reach of the state of Utah, or to act as if everyone in the world lives in Utah. It’s a really bad law.
I’m ok with blocking Utah from the internet. That’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make
Websites need to block all Utah traffic. If their leaders are going to be shitheads, then no traffic for you until you elect new leaders.
I say just block Utah. Cut the grid, blow the highways, and burst the pipes. Maybe burn and salt SLC, let’s see well those profligates last against such odds before they act even the vaguely modern rather than riding Smith and Young’s corpse cocks.
Traffic coming from Utah? Believe it or not, jail.
Shit just block Utah from porn and they will change their tune quick
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You should see how they’ve gerrymandered their districts.
Remember when we told people “they’ll make it illegal to use a VPN” and we got snarky replies like “it’s not enforceable LOL”.
The fuck it isn’t. Traffic coming from a VPN? That’s a paddlin’, kiddo.
They’re not even trying to masquerade it as… oh, yes, they’re still trying to masquerade as a “think of the children!” measure. Those fuckers.
and we got snarky replies like “it’s not enforceable LOL”.
Not being enforceable hasn’t stopped a lot of bad laws from being enacted.
People can use this to look like local traffic.
This seems a bit sketchy to me. How am I getting paid for participating when it’s completely free?
https://docs.ur.io/economic-model/economic-model
Their economic model comes from premium subscriptions. Its free to use with a data cap.
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So what legally protects a provider from prison if users view illegal content via my network?
Reminds me of the guy who got his home raided and electronics seized for running a Tor exit node.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/austrian-man-raided-for-operating-tor-exit-node/
Seems risky and a huge legal hassle even if you don’t end up in prison.
They could run it on a Linux VPS. They might want to have a notice ready as if they were running a tor exit relay and let the host know.
The problem for most users is: they actually want to look like traffic from somewhere else…
I meant to say residential traffic of whatever country they connect to instead of a data center.
it seems very unsafe
Their software is open source.
that doesn’t mean it’s safe though
The pedophile class has the audacity to dictate access to a utility under the guise of protecting the children
