Communism makes it so the guy who is capable of working but sits on his couch all day has the same money as the guy working his butt off…
I have no problem with when people who can’t work are helped, the problem is when people who aren’t trying to work get to mooch off of the workers…
Also, most people aren’t working for $7.25… they go where the money is better… unfortunately big corporations have their fingers in the government (on both sides)
Like, what happens when you’re the one who needs help and you find out that the people who control the social safety net disagree?
No one should suffer. We literally make shit that goes right to the landfill so the line keeps going up. But the guy who wants to sit on the couch is the problem, not a symptom.
I’m sorry, are you a boomer? Did you learn what communism is on fox news? Do you honestly to God think the Soviet Union went from a backwater semi-feudal empire that was suffering from famines every 10 or so years to a nation that beat America in the space race several times over within a generation by only having one guy do all the work while everyone else laid around?
Honest to God, do yourself a favor and at least read Chapter 1 of Lenin’s State and Revolution. If you do that you’ll at least be more learned on some of the 101 level stuff of what communists believe than a lot of the left-liberals that larp as socialists.
The Soviets were the first to space, first to send probes to Venus, first animals in space, first returning animals from space, first humans in space, and more. The moon landing was a huge milestone, sure, but the soviets took a number of firsts themselves.
Saying they beat the Americans in the space race several times over doesn’t mean the Statesians didn’t make it to the moon first, it means the Soviets beat them to many major milestones, yet this is brushed under the rug.
We are talking about communism, it sounds like you’re talking about welfare and getting upset at those on welfare and not the capitalists that plunder all of the social surplus. Of course capitalists control the state, the state serves the ruling class.
Do you think that people don’t work in China? Cuba, Korea, Vietnam? Laos? Do you think they didn’t work in the USSR, when they went from feudalism to space in half a century? I really don’t think you understand how socialism works in real life, or how production in the future will be run.
Genuinely, how did you come to be so confident talking about a subject you clearly don’t know the first thing about? Like, where did you get these ideas from?
I’m talking about communism, not mere taxes…
Communism makes it so the guy who is capable of working but sits on his couch all day has the same money as the guy working his butt off…
I have no problem with when people who can’t work are helped, the problem is when people who aren’t trying to work get to mooch off of the workers…
Also, most people aren’t working for $7.25… they go where the money is better… unfortunately big corporations have their fingers in the government (on both sides)
Like, what happens when you’re the one who needs help and you find out that the people who control the social safety net disagree?
No one should suffer. We literally make shit that goes right to the landfill so the line keeps going up. But the guy who wants to sit on the couch is the problem, not a symptom.
I’m sorry, are you a boomer? Did you learn what communism is on fox news? Do you honestly to God think the Soviet Union went from a backwater semi-feudal empire that was suffering from famines every 10 or so years to a nation that beat America in the space race several times over within a generation by only having one guy do all the work while everyone else laid around?
Honest to God, do yourself a favor and at least read Chapter 1 of Lenin’s State and Revolution. If you do that you’ll at least be more learned on some of the 101 level stuff of what communists believe than a lot of the left-liberals that larp as socialists.
The US was the first to land a person on the moon?
The Soviets were the first to space, first to send probes to Venus, first animals in space, first returning animals from space, first humans in space, and more. The moon landing was a huge milestone, sure, but the soviets took a number of firsts themselves.
The Soviets landed a probe on the moon in 1966.
Yep, another win! Just not a human there and back.
I won’t deny that, but to say they won is false
It’s called the space race, not the moon race.
Saying they beat the Americans in the space race several times over doesn’t mean the Statesians didn’t make it to the moon first, it means the Soviets beat them to many major milestones, yet this is brushed under the rug.
american propaganda frames “getting to the moon” as the end goal of the space race purely because they couldn’t get first in everything else.
We are talking about communism, it sounds like you’re talking about welfare and getting upset at those on welfare and not the capitalists that plunder all of the social surplus. Of course capitalists control the state, the state serves the ruling class.
I don’t get where you got that from…
I said that the problem is when people who are able to work simply choose not to, and feed off of those who do work.
Wellfare is supposed to be for disabled people, injured people, and people who are stuck between jobs…
These people are called capitalists in our world.
Do you think that people don’t work in China? Cuba, Korea, Vietnam? Laos? Do you think they didn’t work in the USSR, when they went from feudalism to space in half a century? I really don’t think you understand how socialism works in real life, or how production in the future will be run.
Genuinely, how did you come to be so confident talking about a subject you clearly don’t know the first thing about? Like, where did you get these ideas from?
Because of how Communism and Socialism has only worked out for the party elite, and has been horrible for the people…
Look at East Berlin and how desperate people were to escape to the west side of the wall.
Did you ignore my comment earlier explaining that socialism has been fantastic for the working classes?
Did you reply to the wrong post? That has nothing to do with what I asked.