• Mearcfara@lemmy.ml
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    22 hours ago

    It’s almost like people struggle to track all that happens when an incredibly complex system of organic matter is ingesting an incredibly complex system of organic matter with almost innumerable variables

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    This is fascinating. There is a type of bollete that has psillocybin too, the blue meanie, from central Europe.

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    1 day ago

    I want some.

    Also, why haven’t any of the researches tried it? I’m curious if seeing little people is a cultural thing or an unique effect of the drug. I’m less surprised that there’s a psychedelic chemical out there that modern science has not studied yet.

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      Well the article mentions that people from outside of China (northern Philippines is given as an example) also report seeing the little people. Also they found historical texts from the 3rd century also mentioning the little people. So it does seem to be an effect of the mushrooms and not just a cultural thing.

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        14 hours ago

        there’s also conditions that result in you seeing things as very small or large, so there are brain malfunctions or conditions not related to consumption of substances that cause similar effects, your brain can see people or human figures more often in visual stimulation in certain circumstances, so a mushroom causing you to see small people could mean it creates those conditions in brain function where you see human figures more and their size is distorted. this could be brain function and not a cultural response to intoxication.

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        Yeah I read that but it could still be something that has been spread across Asian regions. I agree though, there’s likely something specific to the shroom.

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      I would guess the isn’t cultural as the idea of “people, but small” isn’t very specific. It’s probably similar to the “machine elves” users of DMT often report

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        Yeah that’s what I’m thinking. Similar to the interconnectedness people experience with psilocybin.

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      I recall reading that the effects could last for up to a week with cases often requiring hospitalization. Not much fun I imagine.

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        2 days ago

        Plot twist - It’s not a hallucinogen, it just lets you see the little people who are always there!

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        Not that it can’t explain, but that the typical suspects aren’t here. It could very well just be a new kind of chemical that’s not being tested for, because they don’t know it exists yet.

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          Hospital report that people eating it say the same thing. No known psychedelic compound has been found.

          It could be anything. They report this happens with undercooked mushrooms, might as well be a protein.

          Now, finding what it is that causes the effect will be very difficult…

          You’d have to isolate all compounds in there which are not been previously tested and test them separately. Even then you may find nothing as the effect may be produced by a specific combination of compounds which have no activity when isolated.

          Basically: we know it happens but have no idea why.

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            17 hours ago

            Is there no whimsy in there potentially being a novel compound we’ve not yet discovered that causes it?

            Where’s your excitement about verging into a new unknown?