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    Windows 10 only exists because of how much Windows 8 sucked.

    Windows 7 also only exists because of how much Windows Vista sucked lol.

    XP and 7 was Microsoft at their best. They’ll never reach those heights ever again.

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      Windows 7 was the peak. everything since has been a decline.

      Windows 7 was the first Windows OS that didnt require constant reboots, didnt require regular reformat/reinstalls to fix random over time slowdowns/degredation/crashes/etc.

      Windows 7 had a relatively light weight, and very easy to use interface.

      Windows 7 was the last Windows OS that you actually owned when you bought it.

      Every OS after Windows 7 was centered on taking control and usability away from the owner/user.

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        iirc microsoft began going heavy on telemetry (and consequently cutting their QA and testing budget) at some point during Windows 7. That’s why it went downhill after that (Windows 8 and after)

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          Yeah, that was towards the end of windows life, after win10s release… and it was added as a windows update package, and as a result was easily uninstallable.

          and every news article i saw informing people about the telemetry update, also told people how to uninstall it

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      Even Vista was ok, it was just pre-installed on computers that could barely run it and UAC was overtuned but it was solid with the later service packs.

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        Yea, vista was the ME problem all over again.

        People running it on old hardware and old software wasn’t written to use UAC yet.

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          ME had its own problems outside of hardware support.

          Coming out at almost the same time as Windows 2000 certainly didn’t help either.

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        Pre-installed with the craziest bloatware too. I had multiple come to me thinking there computers were hacked they had so much trash from the factory on them

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      The only thing that sucked about windows 8 was their decision to force mobile friendly UI on everyone. Seems to be reoccurring issue.

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        Nah they screwed up the performance eith telemetry and took a dump on the NT kernel and Win32 with PWA.

        My disk usage went from 20% idle in 7 to 100% usage in 8, which made running on HDDs painful to use.

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      Tbf, latest update Vista and 7 are barely different aside from their aesthetics. They just decided to repackage the next update into a different operating system because the well was already poisoned with Vista. Which makes me question why they aren’t doing the same business strategy with Windows 11 now that its failing. Oh well, I want everyone to switch to Linux anyway so 🤷‍♂️

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        The same could be said about 8/8.1.

        It was not ultimately a different OS compared to 10. The major difference was a start button and a baked in telemetry. Other than that, under the hood these used to be the same OSes.

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      Was just an ugly version of NT/2000 that’s the last windows machine I bought/built.

      I did have an XP box for a while that I picked up on a curb on trash day. It still had the wedding photos of the previous owners when I plugged it in.

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      Win11 has been fine for me at home and for the laptops I managed at my last job. Start your machine, skip through the install questions, reboot to USB with a MS ISO, install, done without all the factory bullshit.

      Yes, that’s a minor pain, but it’s a tradeoff against post-install configuration with Linux. Either way, it’s hella better than the old days of struggling with pre and post install.

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        This might surprise you, but I don’t think anyone here is complaining about ease of installation… The “factory bullshit” is built right in to Windows now, and trying to remove it goes way beyond “post-install configuration”.

        Also, as someone who’s done server deployments… doing automated linux installs is trivial.