• TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 days ago

    “BuT I nEeD tO PrOtEcT mAh FaMiLy”

    The chances of you or one of your family member using the gun on your/themselves, and being shot by accident by a family member, are each exponentially higher than you actually having the need to use a gun to protect yourself. Even in a third world country like the US.

    There are so many examples of places on this world where it statistically shows banning guns reduce deaths and injuries. The US is THE example why gun ownership is a bad idea. But sure, go ahaid and kill eachother and yourself. Just keep your dystopian violence on your side of the ponds and borders. Fucking idiots.

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      1 day ago

      It’s a good thought and you’re not even wrong. I used to think the same way.

      Then tens of millions of people voted for Trump not once, not twice, but THREE times.

      Trump lost, fascists threatened civil war, J6 happened… Trump STILL got re-elected, and pretty much on day one he sent the message loud and clear that his violent fascist foot-soldiers can count on getting pardons if they commit violence in his name.

      Now consider how many of those violent fascists have guns.

      Still feel safe without guns?

      • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 day ago

        Yup, without guns these people would be a lot less dangerous so I would feel safer. Also, are they plotting to murder you? Are you in organized crime and do you have a lot of enemies who want to see you dead? Do you get a lot of death threads or something?

        Even is someone would break into you house it’s probably to steal your TV. You don’t need a gun to kill them for that, it’s a fucking TV. Buy better locks.

        Is there an armed robbery in the store you are at? Lay on the ground, follow their instructions. They just want the register money. No need to escalate the situation with gunfire. They get the money, they leave. Or there’s a shootout, you, bystanders and the robbers get shot, all of you either die or get insane medical bills and possibly get handicapped so you can’t work anymore, end up homeless and die of a fentanyl overdose.

        So unless someone is plotting to kill you, you don’t need a gun and you would be safer without one, as the chance of getting hurt by your own gun or by cops because they see you with a gun is significantly higher than you actually needing to protect yourself, and also a situation where you owning a gun actually made a positive difference in the outcome of a violent situation.

        I really like guns, I love to shoot guns for sports. I’ve used many guns during my military service. I’m am so insanely happy guns aren’t allowed here. The only people with guns here are cops, the military, a handful of hunters and sports shooters and organized crime. Those gun owning criminals aren’t plotting to murder me, so I’m better off without a gun and so is everyone else.

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          17 hours ago

          The fascists are literally branding leftists as domestic terrorists and throwing them in the gulag… for things as innocuous as being opposed to the genocide in Gaza.

          So yes, these people are heavily armed and out to get us. They will commit violence against us and get pardoned by their dear leader.

          But I agree with most of the rest… It’s crazy that in Texas you can shoot someone dead for stealing your TV and get away with it.

          I envy you that you don’t have an abundance of armed fascists in your country, and that your government hasn’t been taken over by fascists… but unfortunately that’s the reality that we’re dealing with here in the states.

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      2 days ago

      I’m having a hard time understanding the point you’re trying to make.

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        2 days ago

        Sorry, let me translate to US English:

        Guns bad! Pew pew = ouch ouch! No pew pew = no ouch ouch!

        Get it?

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          2 days ago

          We speak more or less the same language, as I’m sure you’re aware. I’m Danish, by the way.

          I don’t understand what your point is, though. I get that you don’t like guns, but I’m having a hard time understanding where all of the other stuff is coming from.

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            Americans refuse to give up their guns because they claim they need their gums to protect themselves, while they see all the children dying in school shootings (and other people in useless gum violence) as colatheral damage to keep their stupid guns. Many also don’t want to keep their guns in safes because it would take too long to get them whenever someone is out to murder them (because they have loads of enemies or something? So far the amount of people coming for me to murder me is zero). And then they use the gun on a dark silhouette when they hear a weird sound at night, then to find out it’s their spouce/kid etc. Or they get depressed because they had to go to the hospital and got a bull of 200k and they grab the gun and end it. These are statistics. But no matter what, Americans have no boundaries when it comes to making sacrifices, including their own kids, to keep their stupid guns right next to their bed, or even under the shower. It’s just dumb beyond comprehension. Dystopian fiction authors couldn’t come up with this shit.

            Sorry for replying the way I did. Your comment was a standard American ignorant reply, that’s why I reacted that way. But if you’re Danish and didn’t know about how fucking dumb and stupid Americans actually are with their gun laws and bullshit excuses (can’t know everything from every country), then my comment was misplaced. So sorry for that.

            And we definitely do not speak the same language. Although I love Danish, I do not understand a word of it.

            • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              6 hours ago

              gums

              useless gum violence

              colatheral

              safes

              spouce

              hospital bull

              under the shower

              Talk about dumb beyond comprehension, proofreading costs you nothing.

      • Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world
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        1 day ago

        You are magnitudes more likely to be shot by your own gun, be it by yourself or a family member, than you are to need to use that gun against a home invader. Thus, it’s significantly safer for you to keep your gun safely locked away where it can’t hurt you rather than leaving it accessible to protect from the much lower risk of an attacker.