• DevDave@piefed.social
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    2 hours ago

    I remember Reddit used to have the ability to show both upvote and downvotes. I miss that feature.

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    7 hours ago

    Any service only cares about engagement so the dislike was never really useful because the core of engagement is rage bait. The only way to truly downvote content is to not engage with it whatsoever. Ex. The only way to dislike Instagram is to not use the platform

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      Yes! I’m not on insta or TikTok, but people will share horrible things like “can you believe they said this?” And yes, quite frankly I can because here you are commenting on it and sharing it. It’s like people don’t understand the concept of engagement. If someone has a video abusing their child, just report the video and potentially send it to the authorities if needed. Don’t comment and share the video!

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      The problem is that sometimes you can’t know whether the content is worth engaging until you view it. At least YouTube shorts still have the “Don’t recommend channel” option.

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        True but one can mitigate engagement. View < comment < like < share < follow and so on (not exactly sure of the order but you get the idea). Maybe the best would be to block the account after following or report the content, that is short of leaving the platform all together.

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    You see them on SmarTube. But I imagine, like most voting on the internet, it snowballs from whatever tilt it initially showed. People be herds like that. They’ll dislike or disagree with something, but change that opinion once they see what “most” others think at that time. Even if it’s 2 Likes and 1 Dislike.

    And that is a fantastic pathway for engagement and ad revenue. “Markets” or market segmentation, are just our fancy terms for herds.

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    This has always confused me.

    I’ve never liked, disliked, rated, commented, or shared a Youtube video. Because I’m using Freetube, I technically don’t even subscribe anymore. Why are y’all so eager to maintain the algorithm? Does “disliking” a video feel like agency?

    If you really wanna punish Youtube creators, watch their video for less than 30 seconds. That won’t count as a view, but I bet the algorithm clocks it as a dislike.

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      Because it doesn’t make sense from user perspective. I watched Justin Bieber Baby, I watched Rebecca Black Friday and I started watching Bohemian rhapsody but didn’t continue as I’ve heard it alot lately. YouTube assumed I liked the two other songs and hated Queen.

      See the problem? YouTube suggestions were so much better years ago, now it feels like way too much scrolling to find something good

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      they actually changed the algorithm. it used to be preference based, but now its attention based. the people who want the dislike back want the older algorithm back because likes/dislikes used to matter, the shit would sink and the gold would float. ragebait wasn’t the norm back then.

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      There are creators I follow who don’t make videos full time because the money isn’t there yet for them, but they make good videos. Sponsoring them on Pateron helps them financially, but doesn’t help them grow. if I can signal that this is good content and more people should see it, that helps the creator out and encourages more of that type of content to be created.

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        4 hours ago

        Just like I thought. You think it’s your civic duty to train Google’s algorithm in the hopes that it may favor the stuff you like.

        You’re a model consumer. I’ll bet you pause the ads when you leave the room.

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          Yeah, you know, you’re right. Fuck me for wanting the people who make good content to be paid and recognized for their hard work.