• Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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    9 hours ago

    why pay ads when you can just block them? doesnt make sen to pay 10+$ for it, also i heard they want to increase the price and add in ads in the lower subscriptions anyways.

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      9 hours ago

      Because content isn’t free to produce? Because I want to support creators and can’t be half assed to donate to every individual random patron?

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    12 hours ago

    Also: “and this is who is sponsoring me to show my shit on YouTube”

    My fave is when there’s an ad break during an ad.

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    not defending youtube or ads in general, but technically the ad companies don’t pay unless the ad is viewed/served, or only pay depending on how much of the ad is viewed. they aren’t double dipping like this is implying.

    youtube is only getting paid if an ad is shown, and depending on the duration of the ad only for the duration of the ad that is shown to the end user. for like s skippable ad, for the first 30 seconds you can’t skip they get paid for that 30 seconds, but if ithe ad is longer say a minute, but the skip button appears after 30 and you press the skip button youtube only gets paid for the 30seconds the ad was displayed. if you don’t skip then they get paid for the amount of time the ad was shown.

    if you pay for youtube premium, then they don’t show ads, they don’t get paid for ads not shown. but that’s why you are giving them money. to compensate for the “lost revenue” they aren’t getting from ads.

    and for things like adblockers, the ads are not served therefore don’t qualify for being billed and youtube doesn’t get paid. and youtube pays channels based on performance of ads being displayed, and that’s why a lot of channels have both ad spots and sponsor segments. that and youtube doesn’t pay real good for ad revenue unless you are a huge channel.

    and then sponsor block skips sponsor sections for you and some sponsors/channels don’t care the contract was do a sponsor segment and those contracts are outside of youtube itself so youtube doesn’t get paid for them, that’s why there isn’t a sponsor skip action when you pay for premium. but i fear sponsors will corrupt and start doing contracts where they track how many times a segment was viewed and pay out based on that metric too.

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      12 hours ago

      During an ad break you need another ad break.

      Ray(ad break)cons

      Now that is some Quality content so worth the money.

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        20 hours ago

        Same for me, revanced takes what feels like an entire minute or more before starting playback. And quality settings are not available. Is there a revanced community here on Lemmy?

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          Pretty sure revanced has been abandoned. Morphe works perfectly fine, though I’ve had at least one instance since using it, that it stopped functioning, but just required an update. Using morphe for both youtube and youtube music.

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            11 hours ago

            Patching an APK with Morphe takes forever on GrapheneOS. Much slower than ReVanced ever was, I don’t get why.

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              10 hours ago

              Damn, that’s unfortunate. I have a bit over a month left on my cell plan and was thinking of switching carriers and getting a pixel for graphene.

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                I think it’s because JIT instructions are disabled on GrapheneOS for some things as an exploit protection, including patching, writing, and installing apps. I clocked it in at about 15 minutes to update Morphe’d Youtube last week. System updates too, there’s an app optimisation pass every reboot after GrapheneOS updates.

                More as an FYI, I’m not complaining exactly. I’m just not sure why the ReVanced manager did the job faster.

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    I don’t pay and don’t get ads either. Stop being a sucker. Yes, I am fine with them going bankrupt if everyone would do that.

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        Agreed! I’ll take it a step further that they need to face bankruptcy over this!

        The problem is that even if everyone paid for YouTube’s subscription, they’d raise the price, slash the features, and reintroduce ads unless you pay for an even more expensive tier. Just like Netflix.

        Why? Because advertising companies will always be giving more money to YouTube than the users. The only thing paying YouTube gets you is the Sunk Cost fallacy.

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      Fair enough, but dont whine when Youtube circumvents adblockers and starts injecting ads directly into video streams. You did this.

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        TV over the air had ads to pay for the TV shows and channels you watched because they couldn’t really secure the signal they sent out. but also it wasn’t really supposed to be secure in the first place. but TV production was expensive. so you got commercials, ads and sponsors when you watched.

        then cable TV came about. cable TV was supposed to be ad free because you were paying. but then they would have had to fill in for segments when over the air TV was showing ads so instead of that they just showed the same ads and got paid for it. that’s double dipping.