The products covered by the obligation to repair currently include:

  • washing machines and washer-dryers
  • dishwashers
  • refrigerators
  • electronic displays
  • welding equipment
  • servers and data storage products
  • mobile phones, cordless phones and tablets
  • tumble dryers
  • e-bikes and e-scooters batteries (from 18 February 2027)
  • local space heaters
  • arc99@lemmy.world
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    Unfortunately there are some exemptions. Flexible / folding displays are not covered. Fitness trackers and watches are not covered.

    There is also a battery regulation coming in next year to require phone batteries to be replaceable with no tools but that has loop holes too - long life batteries aren’t covered, IP67 rated phones aren’t covered. So you can bet your boots those two reasons will be what makers use to bullshit their way out of it.

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      Having those rules is much better than not having them. Also, IP rating is not enough, batteries also need to have sufficient load cycles. So if it forces them to use only long life batteries that reduces the need for battery repkacements and is already something.

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      Also software… I would love to have regulations that make it clear that the root of trust on all devices need to start by the owner of the device, not by the vendor… That would allow the end users to repair the software on their devices… Replacing it with whatever else they want. Next would be to provide hardware documentation to the owners to program their own devices… I don’t expect that to happen, but I can dream.

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    I like this for a lot of obvious reasons.

    I worry about corporate malicious compliance though where the cost of a replacement part costs as much as the unit or near it to make up for lost revenue from selling whole units.

    They could even get to the printer ink model where they sell the initial device for cheap or at a lost with planned obsolescence of parts that almost guarantee a replacement rate.

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    Water kettle stopped working, has fucking temper proof triangle head screws so can’t even open it without having to buy a special screwdriver bit. name and shame : kitchenaid

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      That’s the thing about repairing things at home or anywhere else. You need tools to do so and more than just a screwdriver and a pair of pliers. You often special tools. You can get a set of triangle bits for maybe 4 to 5 euros and you will have them for life. So don’t be a cheap. Either fix that kettle yourself, pay someone with the skills and tools to fix it, or buy a new one. But don’t whinge about not having tools.

      And let’s also be honest. Some things need to be tamper proof. Most of you ain’t smart enough and experienced enough to play with things that can injure/kill you or others, no matter how many youtube videos you watch.

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        A eater kettle does not have that much stuff inside that it should be tamlre proof for fuck’s sake. It can use normal screws like phillips, hex or torx.

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          But unless you understand the electrical components and the rules and codes in their use for consumer safety, maybe, just maybe, it should be a little bit difficult to gain access to if your 10 years old.

          Go buy some bloody tools and quit your whinging.

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            Yeah sure I’m gonna buy stupid triangle screwdrivers so my nonexistent 10yo cannot open the heater.

            If the said 10yo knows where the tools are it does not matter what kind of screws there are. It just makes me have to buy stupid tools I will only ever use for one appliance.

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    Started as a good idea to regulate industry for the benefit of consumers. Ends up with so many paid-for loopholes it’s mostly useless.

    The cynic in me thinks the only reason the law was created from the start was to extort money from big companies.

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      This law still has a lot of good things in it. Calling it useless is what those companies would want you to do.

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      Some items, to safely repair, need a degree and training

      Such as microwaves, which if you fuck up, you’ve either made a bomb or a radiation leak

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      Because not everything can be repairable. Design and manufacture often require choices to be made. And you seldom get all of the things you want.

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    I’m noticing cars are not part of the list, despite being smartphones on wheels

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    Also, more and more products will let you know until when they guarantee production of spare parts (it’s also driven by regulation of course).

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    Thank you E.U. I hope you have a run of people buying and shipping products all over the world and it pressures everyone else to follow suit.

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      Why is bicycle on the list? A bicycle is the epitome of repairability.

      Edit: it got enshittified?

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        Derailleur hangers come to mind, some brands use a different version in the same model lineup and model year. It’s on purpose to confuse an make it difficult for the average rider to DIY.

        Also Cannondale, famous for using non-standard parts (and tools) for no apparent reason.

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        I take it you never heard Van Moof bricked bikes afteir their bankcruptcy?

        Edit: and thinking about ebike motors and their parts - bosch has locked down their engines real hard

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        It’s red because there’s nothing forcing bike manufacturers to continue down the path of repairability and outside of the enthusiast community, people might not care much, they’ll just buy what’s cheaper.

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        Did you ever repair a bike? Its like every model has its own special tools that you need to get Something unscrewed or pulled of. (You can buy them, though)

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          Although I do understand the need for some of those special tools. The thing for taking apart the chain comes to mind

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      Phones still have replaceable batteries? I have a Google Pixel 8. How do I even open that thing let alone replace the battery?

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      Yes espresso, especially the well known ones(gaggia, rocket, rancilio). They can be repaired!

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        Well thing is this is not about whether the items are currently repairable, but whether laws require them to be.

        At the moment there’s nothing stopping some dipshit from coming up with parts locks on espresso machines the way John Deere does them.

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          You’re basically describing any of the electronic style coffee machines, good luck repairing a vendor lock-in optimized keurig or nespresso machine that scans your pods to validate their IDs before brewing.

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    Heh, the dryer stopped working at home and my spouse was bracing to buy a new one. So nice to break out the multimeter, find the issue, and 10 dollar part later, good as new.

    Think of all the waste avoided by repairing a tiny part in a gigantic appliance.

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      Today I repaired my toothbrush after my room mate suggested buying another one that is cheaper than mine amd the same brand as theirs.
      Looked up the model, iFixIt manual available, opened it, tightened the screw on the vibrating head for the motor and put it back together.
      Working flawlessly again and 50-75€ (or even more) saved.

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      Yeah this could be great. Part of my job involves clearing up fly tip, dumped rubbish, and a shit load of it is electric appliances. Most people don’t know how to use a multimeter, but you only need to know someone who does.