• Feathercrown@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I’ve seen fairly universal support from liberal voters both irl and online for Palestine, but not from our politicians.

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      10 months ago

      That was the same with black liberation and apartheid South Africa in MLK and Mandela’s time: they support it only in theory. How many of them supported direct action and use of violent force to actually materially change those? How many of them support Hamas, PFLP, etc in our current time now?

      The answer is “not many”, because MLK, Malcolm X and Mandela were all right about liberals being the same as conservatives in practice.

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        10 months ago

        Hamas is more complicated, because they have also called for the extinction of Israel. That being said I’m pretty sure 90%+ of protests against Israel in the US have been lead by liberals.

        Anyways, yeah, they’re exactly the same, except for taxes, education, infrastructure, student loan debt, environmental protections, general demeanor, morals, actual family values, LGBTQ+ rights, not committing insurrection, avoiding gerrymandering, not delaying supreme court nominations, following the Constitution, mental health policies, healthcare, generally caring about their fellow human beings… you get the idea.

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          10 months ago

          Hamas is more complicated

          See what Malcolm X, MLK, and Mandela meant? You would’ve said shit like this about MLK’s and Mandela’s violent riots and sabotages of the government too, and liberals did.

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            10 months ago

            No, the difference is that black people didn’t generally call for the extinction of the rest of the united states. They wanted equality, not supremacy. Sometimes situations really are different.

            Also I find it interesting that you only responded to that part of my comment.

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        10 months ago

        Yeah people seem to forget liberalism is a right-wing ideology. One look at Reddit’s takes on Palestine says everything.