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    8 months ago

    As a comsumer of none, you all look like junkies to me (including the cigarette/vape and coffee people). 🙃

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        8 months ago

        Never in my life has someone been impressed by that. They always just feel personally attacked, for no good reason.

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          8 months ago

          Maybe the reason here is that you implied that anyone with habits you personally consider to be undesirable are junkies?

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            Well, I was hoping that indicating the unseriousness of my message with the “🙃” emoji would suffice to make even people, who deem “junkie” an insult, realize that it was at most said tongue-in-cheek.

            And I do not consider these habits undesirable in other people, obviously so long as no one is brought in danger by drunk driving or such. They just don’t align with my own personal vision for my own life.

            If I need to write any more legalese to justify a stupid one-liner, I will lose my fucking mind. We’re literally in a community for jokes.

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      8 months ago

      Now look here, when you write such a toxic statement you have to spell everything right, including consumer otherwise you really just look stupid.

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        8 months ago

        You’re the one interpreting “junkie” or “addict” as an insult. I did not intend for it to be toxic, so I’ll typo all day long, tgank tou veey muxh.

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          Calling someone a junkie is an insult. You are using the term wrong if you think it is not a pejorative. Looking at your comments, you absolutely do look down on casual imbibers, you just don’t think you do. It’s “I’m not racist, but…” kind of thinking.

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            Yes, when other people use the word “junkie”, it is often said as an insult. Which is why I followed it up with “🙃”. But ultimately, my intent was not toxic, was my point.

            And well, it’s cool that you can read so much into my psychology from a handful of comments, but I’m not sure why I should care. Talk to me for half an hour about nihilism, then I might care about your judgement.

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        8 months ago

        I don’t know any, to be honest. If you’re not just enjoying the hot beverage, flavor or even the effects of the caffeine, but rather you’re dependent on it – as in, you fall into a bleak mood, if you can’t have it – then yeah, I would categorize that as the same.

        I mean, so long as your dependence doesn’t negatively affect your or other people’s lives, I don’t really care. Personally, I just detest the thought of being dependent on specific substances.

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          You are also dependent on various natural chemicals in the food you eat. Does that make you an <insert chemical> addict? It makes no sense. I could also find some “socially bad” chemical in foods you eat and harass you and look down upon you for it.

          You are targeting caffeine with the negative social reputation of cocaine. Chocolate also has caffeine, just like green tea, yerba mate, tea or coffee. Does that make you a caffeine addict? Makes no sense. A teaspoon of cocoa powder has 12 mg caffeine, roughly 1/3rd of a cup of green tea. A cup of green tea has half the caffeine of tea and coffee.

          If your caffeine consumption is within medically safe limits, you are not an addict. Personally, I limit my caffeine intake to under 80 mg a day, 40 of which is green tea, then comes cocoa powder milkshake and chocolate products. In comparison, a Starbucks Venti has 330 mg caffeine, and a Red Bull and a regular coffee cup have 75-80 mg caffeine.

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            I could also find some “socially bad” chemical in foods you eat and harass you and look down upon you for it.

            Half my message was specifically written to say that I don’t do this. People look like drug addicts to me. And I’m not looking down on drug addicts.

            You are also dependent on various natural chemicals in the food you eat.

            Yes, I’m not a fan of that either. Doesn’t mean, I can change it.

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              Anyone who consumes <insert chemical> does not become an addict by default. You yourself consume technology, and are not a hermit living on Himalayas. There is no “purity” in you, just as there is no “purity” in “drug addicts” you label coffee drinkers as. I am not even a coffee drinker and find it insanely stupid.

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          Coffee withdrawal for many people includes vicious headaches, aside from the everyday uselessness of addicts before their first cup each day

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            Green tea and yerba mate have a lot of theobromine, so they lack the jittery effect of coffee or the dependence of black/milk tea. Other Indian/Chinese therapeutic teas are also helpful if one needs a deeper dive.