• CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    6 months ago

    No, I think OP is making a valid point. If you start with a Kei and just add in modern safety features and nothing else, the size of the vehicle will be a lot closer to the Kei than the other monstrosity.

      • CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        6 months ago

        I’m not saying the modern Kei must be safe. I’m saying if you do things to make it safer while prioritizing small size, you’ll end up with something a lot closer to the size of the Kei than the other car.

        • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          edit-2
          6 months ago

          you’ll end up with something a lot closer to the size of the Kei than the other car.

          They literally just provided that vehicle for you…… still not safe…… because it can’t be done at that size… instead of claiming something, provide an example to show it’s even possible mate.

            • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              5
              ·
              edit-2
              6 months ago

              Looks like it can hold about a third of the capacity of the truck and a 1/10 of the towing? Yeah they aren’t comparable when you account for what matters. It has a bed is about the lowest a factor when looking for a truck, capacity and towing is what people look for.

              But of course people deflect from these and just spout it’s the same bed size like that matters?

              • PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                6
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                6 months ago

                Let’s be honest, the bed size doesn’t matter either since the majority of the trucks you see on the road are carrying nothing more than a LARPing driver – that’s why they keep making them smaller and smaller.

                But the numbers you pulled out of your ass weren’t part of the criteria when you told us all it “wasn’t possible”.

                Also, I absolutely adore the salty little down votes you give anyone who replies to your comment without agreeing with you, even when you demand a reply. It’s like something a grumpy toddler would do.

                • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  4
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  6 months ago

                  Those numbers aren’t out of my ass, it has a towing of 1000kg, most full size trucks have 10,000……

                  And why would towing and capacity not be part of the conversation…? They are literally the two most important factors when deciding on trucks.

                  Why does everyone deflect from the actual reasons people buy trucks and perpetuate this stupid “bed size is what matters? People who use trucks know this how car people talk about trucks…… because that’s literally not a concern for people who use trucks… you’re literally showing your bias and lack of education lmfao.

                  • PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    4
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    6 months ago

                    They’re not pulled from your ass because they’re wrong, they’re pulled from your ass because you only decided they were important after your “it’s not possible” didn’t hold up.

                    And why would towing and capacity not be part of the conversation…? They are literally the two most important factors when deciding on trucks.

                    Towing and capacity only matter if you actually use them and the majority of truck owners clearly don’t. You can’t justify the environmental and social cost of giant trucks by claiming “It can tow 10,000kg” and then never tow anything. An ebike is capable of towing “nothing”.

                    So don’t be coy. Show us a picture of your truck towing 10,000kg. Show us your neighbors truck towing 10,000kg. It’s why you needed them and why you couldn’t possibly drive a smaller car.

                    Why does everyone deflect from the actual reasons people buy trucks and perpetuate this stupid “bed size is what matters? People who use trucks know this how car people talk about trucks…… because that’s literally not a concern for people who use trucks… you’re literally showing your bias and lack of education lmfao

                    If you’re going to try and insult someone’s education, try not to precede it with a paragraph of barely coherent word salad. “People who use trucks know this how car people talk about trucks”?

          • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            cake
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            6 months ago

            because it can’t be done at that size

            it literally can be? You just don’t need to crash it into a freight train. The reason most large vehicles are so much safer is because you are significantly more likely to kill the other person in a car crash, especially if they’re in a smaller car, and if they’re not, then both you and the other party will experience significantly more impact forces compared to using a smaller car, which fun fact, makes surviving crashes a whole lot easier.

          • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            6 months ago

            Smart gets a 5 star crash rating and is smaller than a. Kei truck. It can be done. Get Smart to make a pickup, literally just stick a bed on the back of the thing.

            • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              4
              ·
              6 months ago

              Get Smart to make a pickup, literally just stick a bed on the back of the thing.

              Thats literally not how it works… like at all….

              But not surprised SOMEONE would suggest it eventually…

          • CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            6 months ago

            I’m not saying at that size! I’m saying that whatever size increase you need to make a reasonably safe pickup would be closer to the small extreme (the Kei) than the large extreme.

            • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              6 months ago

              Then you end up with the smaller trucks we already have on the market or a Maverick that has a bed so small that it’s not that useful for actual truck stuff…

              • CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                3
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                edit-2
                6 months ago

                Surely you can imagine a truck that may or may not currently be on the market. This theoretical truck is minimally large enough to be reasonably safe, and also has a bed is as big as the trucks pictured. Like, a truck that does not have four doors and two rows of seating.

                  • CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    3
                    arrow-down
                    2
                    ·
                    6 months ago

                    What? I just said it may or may not exist. And half the point of the image we are commenting on is that car makers are making excessively large trucks so it’s very possible that such a car isn’t currently being made. I’m just asking you to use 1% of your imagination to imagine a truck that has a full size bed that is neither the Kei nor a monument to man’s hubris. Like a 90s-sized truck.