• kboy101222@sh.itjust.works
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      4 months ago

      Absolutely not. His ass can stay shunned for eternity. I don’t care if he starts supporting everything I do, the shit he’s done is unforgivable

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      4 months ago

      I don’t think that’s true. Cheney’s just not part of Trump’s in-crowd. Cheney would go full fascist if he were at the top of it.

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      A competent war criminal politician is far more dangerous than a fascist. Historically, fascists burn themselves out trying to kill the left and expand without a sufficient base of control. Liberals like Cheney still employ the most horrific methods of fascism but do so without public opposition that could derail their agenda and with a more stable base of capitalist support. Indigenous peoples in what is now the United States were genocided by these kinds of people and the programs they designed and implemented. The fascists, particularly Nazis, used this as inspiration for Operation Barbarossa and Lebensraum, but were much less effective in their genocide.

      And to be clear, Trump isn’t really a fascist in this sense. There is no left for him to oppose, he has no fascist program of expansion and his policies were pretty similar to those of his predecessors. He is just rude, opportunistic, and reactionary. These are popular attributes in the United States and have been for decades, centuries. Blaming marginalized groups for all your problems is as American as apple pie and is clearly 100% compatible with liberal democracy. Democrats are currently doing it with euphemisms, they are outflanking Republicans on immigration policy from the right.

      A person like Cheney wants to see someone slick like him more competently doing PR for the machine. Someone erratic like Trump throws a wrench into the plans sometimes because he’s a self-interested idiot.

  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlM
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    You know libs, when the butcher of Iraq throws his support for your candidate, maybe it’s time to accept that you are the baddies.

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    If I were running for president I would simply reject the genocidal war criminals’ endorsements.

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    More proof the Democrats are blue conservatives. Ranked choice voting or bust. Going bust is okay if thats what yall want, I literally don’t care.

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      Ranked choice voting is a cargo cult. Without changing the underlying structure of who has money and influence in society you’re not going to have a democratic system in the first place. Look at what happened in NYC. Ranked choice voting didn’t make the dominant class the most populous one. The landlords didn’t even have to settle for a sycophant with a progressive mask.

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          As finite beings, we have to prioritize realistic actions and should set our expectations for what we will accomplish with an approach. Many people expend all of their political energy on reformist dreams that can never accomplish the needed changes. Instead, they should place more of their energy into realistic and historically proven methods.

          These things are also often at odds. Reformism is at odds with a revolutionary approach. Not just in methods but by spreading an unrealistic idea of what can be accomplished. Now the revolutionaries have to debunk that reformism on top of all the rest of their work! Everyone’s time is wasted. We could do more with higher numbers and better focus.