Dude, Nazis aren’t going to be convinced to stop being a Nazi just because you also start acting like a Nazi. That’s actually one of their objectives.

I don’t use slurs that aren’t directed at groups I’m a part of. We do that to denote respect for groups that are harmed by those slurs.

What you’re referring to is the historical use of a term compared to its contemporary or colloquial meanings. “Idiot,” was indeed used in the past to refer to people with disabilities or mental illnesses, that is very much not the dominant understanding of its meaning today. “Idiot,” today has the meaning of poor intelligence or foolishness, but is not associated with conditions that people imagine result in those poor qualities.

Something like the “r” word is very much associated with mental, genetic, and learning disabilities that are, by its very use, argued to be the cause of the victim’s perceived poor intelligence. They’re calling the person that word regardless of whether they think they have any disorders because they associate those disorders with poor intelligence and also poor social value. It being an insult is dependent on the devaluing of disabled people.

“Idiot,” or “stupid,” do not carry those connotations in culture, they’re only insults referring to the intelligence of the individual(s) they are directed at.

With all that being said, it’s often seen as low-class or immature to resort to these insults at all. You should never use the “r” word as it is a slur directed at an extremely vulnerable group of people and its use reinforces their devalued status.

No I’m not trying to say that you’re wrong, I’m just asserting that there isn’t doubt as to whether this is ableism. I don’t want that to discourage you from pointing out bigotry when you see it.

Yeah this is very apparent all over social media. It’s the consequence of liberals who think disagreeing with the overt fascism seen in MAGA allows moral purity in their actions. They don’t actually interrogate internalized values they hold from capitalism and settler-colonialism that devalues groups of people, they just know which groups are more or less “wrong” to target. They feel emboldened by a visible and decisive enemy, which makes them less self-conscious about the bigotry they foster uncritically.

It’s not too close, this is ableism.

That’s ableism. These people don’t look the way they do and don’t act they way they do because of any genetic disorder. They also aren’t going to fucking see this so the only people being insulted by this are people who are disabled, great job.

We’re talking about actual fascists here and you guys are insulting with eugenics and appearance ffs.

Eugenics, nice. Total own dude you really got me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_syndrome

The joke is very obviously referencing Down Syndrome, with the joke you mentioned in another comment being some sort of subversion of expectations by having the gene duplication mistaken, except there are diseases with gene absence as the root cause.

Punching down at disabled people is some chud shit.

Ableism. What a funny joke dude. Could you explain what specifically they’re referring to about missing chromosomes that would make someone a fascist?

May update made my pc bluescreen and stop detecting RAM. I rebooted my bios and was searching for a new mobo before rolling back updates because of how insane it seemed that an update could fuck up that badly. I fucking hate US tech.

This is why you can’t argue on their terms. They don’t care about what makes sense, they just want to maximize value of your sickness and death