Democrats aren’t attacking Jill Stein because they think she is taking votes from Kamala Harris. No one I know who’s voting Green would consider a vote for Harris at this point. They’re attacking Jill Stein because they don’t want voters to know that there can be a worker-centered party to the left of the Democrats that supports popular policies like Medicare for All, a $25 wage and federally guaranteed housing.

There are 80+ million eligible voters who don’t vote at all because they don’t see the point. Democrats are okay with this, in fact, they don’t want any candidate to their left to appeal to those voters with popular policies.

The fact that the Green Party exists shows that the Democrats aren’t pushing the most progressive policies. Jill Stein’s candidacy shows that it’s possible to support reproductive justice AND be against funding and arming a genocide. That we can end homelessness if we stopped funding endless wars around the globe.

Democrats don’t want anyone to the left of them to exist because it’s the only way they can convince Americans that Dem policies are “the best that we can do”. To Dems, anything else is just “asking for a pony”.

Don’t fall for it. Despite Dem’s desire to have you think otherwise, things don’t have to be this way.

Another world is possible.

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    if you at all believe in a free Palestine, you will take action to vote for Harris

    How? Harris isn’t even allowing Palestinian Americans to speak. She isn’t even trying to appeal to them or acknowledge them.

    I was idealistic when I was young too

    Thanks for the compliment but my bad back calls bullshit on me being young.

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      How?

      Because Trump is firmly aligned with Netanyahu and opposed to the existence of Palestine.

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          No. Not like Trump. Not by a long shot.

          Trump openly told Netanyahu to eradicate the Palestinians. Trump has empowered Israel over and over again. if anyone gained anything during Trump’s presidency it was Israel.

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          That is a lie. The United States supports Israel because of its position in the region. To defend democracy and economies in the region, the US has to negotiate with the Israel terrorist state. Trump doesn’t give a shit about anyone in the region and has fully supported Netanyahu’s genocide. The current conflict is largely due to Trump’s actions as president and Biden’s inaction as president.

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            To defend democracy

            jagoff

            the US has to negotiate with the Israel terrorist state

            And by negotiate you mean unconditionally arm their genocide?

            Trump doesn’t give a shit about anyone in the region and has fully supported Netanyahu’s genocide

            Again, the weapons Israel is using for their genocide were sent to them by Biden, not Trump. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-has-sent-israel-thousands-2000-pound-bombs-since-oct-7-2024-06-28/

            The current conflict is largely due to Trump’s actions as president and Biden’s inaction as president

            Once again, Biden is actively arming this genocide. That doesn’t sound like inaction to me.

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              the US has to negotiate with the Israel terrorist state

              This all checks out, because we all know that famous Bush quote, “We absolutely totally negotiate with terrorists”

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                Imagine what would have happened if Biden / Congress didn’t continue military contracts

                Had you been paying attention to the actual news, you would know that the US has been arming Israel for decades

                Okay, and? Israel has been a genocidal colonizer state since its inception. Every previous president who armed them is a war criminal, too.

                This is the most complicated international conflict in our lifetime

                It really isn’t. Israel is a genocidal settler state living on stolen land. They should be abolished and the land returned to Palestine, its rightful owners. What part of this are you struggling with?

                Not because the US supports genocide but because the US supports the destruction of terrorism in the region.

                Oh fuck off. You said yourself they only care about Israel because of its position in the region. They don’t give a shit about terrorism, they’ve been actively funding terrorists and destabilizing the region for decades. It’s never been about democracy or fighting terror and you are incredibly naive if you still believe this. It’s only ever been about extracting as much oil from the region as possible as cheaply as possible.

                You are choosing the person who is literally saying he wants to destroy Palestine over the person who is “actively arming this genocide”

                Excuse me? I’m not choosing shit. Please link to me exactly where I said I was going to vote for Trump. I have never once expressed any interest in voting for him, not in 2016, nor 2020, nor today. No, refusing to vote for Harris is not, in fact, a vote for Trump. That’s not how voting works and you are a literal baby if you think not voting for a specific candidate is inherently a vote for another.

                Biden and Blinken are still trying to get a ceasefire and support for a two state solution

                They have never been serious about a ceasefire. Biden is still sending Israel all the weapons they need to carry out their extermination campaign. If he was even the smallest bit serious about enforcing a ceasefire he would stop sending them weapons to fire.

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                  No, refusing to vote for Harris is not, in fact, a vote for Trump. That’s not how voting works and you are a literal baby if you think not voting for a specific candidate is inherently a vote for another.

                  A third party vote is the same as not voting. Not voting in a presidential election means you don’t care who wins. I’ll give you that. However, you seem to be someone who does care about the outcome of the election and is in support of minimizing conflict in the Middle East. If that’s the case, Trump has informed us that he intends to destroy the region by permitting Netanyahu to eliminate the Palestinians. So, by not voting, you are choosing to not let your voice be heard in the matter.

                  By not voting for the viable candidate that most aligns with your philosophies, you are increasing the risk of the other candidate’s victory.

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                    A third party vote is the same as not voting.

                    Oh my god just shut the fuck up already.

                    If that’s the case, Trump has informed us that he intends to destroy the region by permitting Netanyahu to eliminate the Palestinians

                    Harris has promised the exact same thing by promising unwavering support to Israel, just in politer terms that are more palatable to scratched liberals like you.

                    By not voting for the viable candidate that most aligns with your philosophies, you are increasing the risk of the other candidate’s victory.

                    The Democrats are not entitled to my vote, nor were they ever entitled to it just because they’re Not Trump. Fuck you, genocide enabler.

                    PIGPOOPBALLS

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                  They should be abolished and the land returned to Palestine, its rightful owners.

                  I very much agree with this.

                  What part of this are you struggling with?

                  Iran.

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                    I very much agree with this.

                    No you don’t, because you’re still up and down this thread bootlicking for Biden and Harris, who are as vocally pro-Israel as anyone can possibly be.

                    Iran.

                    Is Iran compelling Israel to commit genocide against Palestine? Are they compelling the US to arm this genocide? What the fuck does this even mean?

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                Oh well if they’re trying real hard to get a ceasefire I guess they’re just weak and incompetent. In which case why would I support them.