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The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldM to Facepalm@lemmy.world · 8 months ago

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The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldM to Facepalm@lemmy.world · 8 months ago
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  • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.social
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    Which is worse: a line of asbestos, or a line of grounf-up fiberglass? I can’t imagine either is going to do your lungs any good.

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      From what I understand, asbestos is far worse. Fiberglass causes irritation but that’s about it. Asbestos, while it takes its time, will eventually cause mesothelioma and you really don’t want that.

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        Really? That’s surprising. I would think inhaling a bunch of ground glass would severely damage your lungs, permanently.

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          Fiberglass is very smooth compared to asbestos, at a microscopic level. That’s what makes asbestos so bad - it gets in there and works its way further in, like a porcupine quill. Fiberglass is by no means healthy, but it’s a fair bit less harmful.

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          Asbestos can get to such a fine point that it can literally physically cleave DNA. Edit: I think I am wrong about that, please see my comment below

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            Holy shit what

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              I may have been misinformed, actually. Looking into it further, it seems like mechanical interference in cell division was ruled out. However, it seems there is some evidence that among other things, fibers beyond a certain length cause macrophages to essentially get destroyed trying to engulf them, which contributes to chronic inflammation, which is a big risk factor in many cancers

              It’s a bit above my head but here is a study I found https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7082251/

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                Thanks for the study

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                THANKS

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          Yeah, and asbestos does that too and then gives you mega cancer in about 20 years.

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          Fiberglass probably won’t feel nice and might leave some permanent scars, but iirc, asbestos will do that and then some, but with particles so small that your body can never fully get rid of it

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        I thought fiberglass causes silicosis?

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      Both travels down to the aveola level IIRC, but asbestos has a small toxic atom that gets left there, which us why asbestos is so bad for your health.

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