I grew up with working class guys and my adult life with tech folks. I know of very few guys who want woman to dress more modestly and they are all a type of uber nerd and I think in all cases were super religious as well. Then again none of them would wear a tie without it being mandatory. Heck I barely tolerate wearing clothes in general except to protect from inclement weather.

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    Hey I’m not trying to tell you it isn’t normal to be attracted to people, lord knows I’d be a hypocrite. It just seems like you’re describing a learned behavior associated with the sphere of attraction that might make women uncomfortable. I know one of the replies to your comments mentioned being so uncomfortable by men doing it that they thought about getting a cosmetic mastectomy.

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      Learned or not, I like boobs, and frankly that shouldn’t make someone uncomfortable. Some people like feet, some like forearms and hands, some like backs, some like beards, some prefer green eyes to blue, some like height, some like butts, being attracted to stuff is just kinda a thing that happens to everyone (well maybe unless you’re ace but I think even some of them experience physical attraction just without the desire to act on it). All that is fine, and boobs are too. Whether or not those women “learned” to like arms or were “born” liking arms is frankly inconsequential imo, I find it acceptable for them to be attracted to arms, and boobs are no different. Hell, some women are attracted to boobs themselves, is it bad when they do it as well, or is it only bad when men are attracted to boobs? What about being attracted to other things than boobs? If I like that cute ski slope nose some women have, is that bad too?

      Someone being made uncomfortable (not my comment btw) by attraction to their boobs sounds more like their personal dysphoria to me, not that being attracted to boobs is an immoral thing to do. I happen to be flattered by women liking my forearms, but if I wasn’t and wanted to chop them off at the elbow simply because women say they like them, that’d clearly be more of a “me” problem than a “woman shouldn’t like arms” problem. They of course should be free to seek any gender affirming surgery they wish, but their uncomfortability shouldn’t be the arbiter of whether or not it’s acceptable to be attracted to something for the entirety of society. What if some woman out there likes people being attracted to her boobs, would she then be the arbiter of attraction morality or do they have to fight to the death on a balance beam with giant qtips while The Chronicles of Narnia Battle Theme plays to see who gets to decide?

      It’s not like I’m running around honking hooters without consent all day or anything, if that’s the impression you got from “I like boobs and think being attracted to things is ok to do.” Assault is bad, but attraction != assault.

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        Hell, some women are attracted to boobs themselves, is it bad when they do it as well, or is it only bad when men are attracted to boobs?

        I really like boobs too. But I don’t get distracted by them in normal non-sexual situations. The issue isn’t being attracted, it is the gaze.

        I think you’re kind of being dismissive of what that commenter is saying. It is really uncomfortable being looked at like that.

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          Define “gaze.” I’m sure you’ve taken a gander at someone (any gender) you find attractive before, does that count as “gaze?” There’s a difference between staring, looking, glancing, “checking someone out,” etc. “Staring” is of course a problem, but it’s always a problem not just when there’s boobs involved, typically met with a “the fuck you looking at?” when men stare at other men, nobody likes that. I don’t “stare,” but I 100% have checked people out before, as has that commenter I’m sure, and you too, it’s natural.