• Pennomi@lemmy.world
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        Are we suggesting China is a younger country? I don’t deny they’ve caught up insanely fast though.

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          No, I didn’t say anything like that. I’m saying they’re a large country that only took 10 years to build out a high speed rail network.

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          It both is and it isn’t. An entity know as China has existed for millennia, but the modern government has existed for a little over 100 years.

          It’s an interesting thought exercise on how to treat these types of things though. Like how old is the German state? Do you count it from the original unification in 1866, or do you count the government that’s continued since the fall of the Nazi party? What about the Reunification after the fall of the Soviet Union?

          The culture and the idea of a country can carry past the fall of its government, but how old does that then make the new state?

          Truthfully I don’t know how to answer this, it’s neat though

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      I always find this one funny as perhaps more than any other nation railways massively shaped how the US grew into what it is today.

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        It’s much harder to plan around property ownership when you can’t just kill the property owners.

        American culture is generally anti-collective so that “independence” coupled with cars becoming status symbols ensured the death of rail in America.

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        the UA

        … Ukraine? Normally you’re not supposed to use “the” when referring to it these days.

        And while I’m sure rail is an important element of the development of modern Ukraine, I don’t think its the most significant example.

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      US was constituted in 1787. Trains were invented in 1804 and made commercial in 1829. You’ve had the same time as the rest of us.

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        Railways were being built in the US as early as 1795, and their first purpose-built “main line”, the Baltimore & Ohio, opened in 1830, 5 years after its British counterpart the Stockton & Darlington.

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          If the train (with a locomotive engine, I assume) wasn’t invented until 1804, as per the comment you’re replying to, were those first railways in 1795 used with animals like horses? Or maybe there’s a disagreement on what counts as the first “real” railway?