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This meme itself feels like AI slop. Also, as a dual user, AI is really not that prelevant on Windows, as opposed to my android phone. Not sure how things are on iPhone, but I heard apple intelligence is going “great”
AI slop + it doesn’t make much sense to begin with
It’s not the automatic Updates themselves making Windows bad lol
Totally agree.
And here OP proves perfectly how Windows Updates have done a ton of collective damage to security by being a terrible experience.
Software MUST be always updated.
but then it breaks or the design team needed to justify its salary again or…
Then the problem lies with the software. Not updating it is not a solution
despite Debian propaganda (/hj)
Source or it’s AI
Its obviously AI
Apart from my comment, here’s the tldr:
The outlines, the thought bubbles, the general senselessness of the meme and it not being tied to anything Linux users normally do, instead being based on stereotypical stuff regurgitated by most youtubers now
Also the Terminal on the left is just nonsense
Check out the daily slop of Eli the Computer guy, the thumbnails are all AI slop and generally you can really see the parallels once you look at those vs this image
Also the Terminal on the left is just nonsense
there is no terminal on the left?
On the right I mean. Specifically, an apt update neither upgrades the packages (only syncs the repo), nor should it magically change your shell to sh without giving you any output, except if you enabled the --silent option, which was not enabled in this case, and even then I’m pretty certain it would only cut out verbose output like the specific repos, but not the „synced repos. X packages can be upgraded” message.
right, makes sense
The font stands out, too.
Also this in another post from the same guy.
The AI Generated anti AI Meme.
Also, the example has nothing to do with updating or not.
What makes you think, that this is AI
The typical Font, the typical drawing style
It is generally
- not a known meme template
- not a „normal” font style like impact, used by most no effort memes
–> pretty big effort
- maybe artist?
–> no Mark, not known like xkcd, pizzacake, cyanide and happiness (which would have been most likely)
- pretty typical AI font style, weird curly but at the same time straight font
- also the outlines remind me really much of AI slop
- If anyone might have drawn it, the monitor and desk would have stayed the same. If they wanted to do it in a more obvious way that these are 2 different people, they would have added more of a color and/or person differentiation with clothing or other desks. Instead the image is copied and pasted 95%, except for small, usually not noticable changes like the corners of the image. This is generally how AI images look using the same input, only having the random parameters that are usually inserted into the image generator change.
Its literally the same line thickness
Also, random notes: Thought bubble looks really like AI, nonsense Terminal commands consisting of a mix of Ubuntu/Debian default bash and sh??? (sh usually only has a $)
The template „AI vs no need to update” generally has nothing to do with each other, and is generally just the stuff regurgitated by just about every YouTube channel by now; unlike most Linux users memes, which ranges generally in more niche topics
- Windows AI, Forced updates
- Linux no AI, Terminal, Debian commands
Also, as https://lemmy.world/comment/21278707 @AeonFelis has pointed out, the image is 5mb big.
Also, a resolution of 2816x1536 is not normal
Almost just like it is not normal for such an image not to be tagged by your Graphics Program that you used to make it
TL;DR: this is what happens if you ask grok to make a Meme about Linux and windows from the meaning depth to the weird art
Check out the other great dissection
https://lemmy.world/comment/21275322
And the fact you are even denying it, yet posting the most obvious slop, makes it even funnier
Might add to it later, but I think if you already read this, you might as well look at the PIC and my example and decide for yourself
also the ai junk lines close to the books
That looks more like the general „Lines instead of actual text” used by many artists
Not really an AI thing
i’m talking about the gray thing with random lines coming out of it
What’s with the random comma? It makes absolutely no sense. And then you decided to not use a question mark, both those things are just so odd. And HOW do you not see that it’s an AI generated image? This whole comment section is about how obvious it is, with many examples why. It almost feels like your comment is some rage bait shit.
The irony that the meme has multiple popups about AI being bad while the entire meme is AI-generated.
I agree. Can’t quite put my finger on it… maybe the window behind the monitor? I try not to assume simply because of the style, but the lack of author credit makes it hard to check anyway.The weird thing is it wouldn’t at all be hard to draw by hand.
Edit: I like all the different answers. It feels like a new, unfortunate version of the “find the differences” game.
It’s also the total failure of a punch line in the second frame. Just so robotic sounding.
It’s also the font on the pop-ups.
There’s a very generic style of Facebook cartoon that these things absolutely nail.
Check out the random items on the desk. They make no sense.
But yes, the biggest giveaway is those slightly blurry pop ups and that not-quite-comicsans font you see in all that slop.
Left side. There is a thing next to the books and the handle of the coffee cup is wonky.
I think it’s the speech bubbles
keyboard
There are no such popups though. The issue on Windows is that Microsoft is pushing AI everywhere, whether you want it or not. But the OP allegedly used AI as a tool to generate this image when they wanted to.
I would say it doesn’t exactly say that AI is bad moreso that shoving it forcefully in people’s throat is not the way to do it.
If all the BS AI of Windows would be exclusively opt-in I would be “” fine"" with it.
Then there is also the “telemetry” and the random updates, or settings changing on their own and…
hey bro this image kinda smells AI Generated my man
Because it is
Help me out here whippersnapper, all I can see that is suspicious is the coffee cup and grey note next to it, but everything else looks clean
For me it’s the text (too regular and perfectly-ruled to be hand lettered, but too much variance between the letterforms to be a font) and the little AI artifact on the random doohickey directly under the bottom left corner of the AI computer monitor:
Aside from that, it’s just the weight of unmotivated choices. Why is the “good” side of the image grayscale while the “bad” side is in color (a human probably would’ve done it the other way)? Why are the desks drawn slightly differently while the person, chair, and computer are drawn the same (a human would’ve probably made everything identical to better illustrate their point)? Why all the random clutter on one but not the other (if the point was to make the AI computing experience look scattered and cluttered, surely they would’ve made it more overwhelmingly cluttered, but if it was for verisimilitude they’d have put clutter on both desks)? Also, subjectively, the “AI” logo on the screen suggests a pleasant experience, not an oppressive one.
An unmotivated choice on its own isn’t necessarily an AI calling card, but enough of them together alongside one or two smoking guns can definitely make the case pretty strongly.
There are cables in the windows side but not the Linux side, which also seems like an odd choice for a human to make to me.
Agreed, good catch.
All good points, thanks for this
It’s becuase they told the ai to make the right side simple so it simplified everything.
It’s not just ai slop, they also used sloppy prompts.
The desk and the colours too. Impressive prompt predicting from you, are you sure you’re not ai?
What an astute and flattering observation! You are good and smart.
I am 100% real. Trust me bro.
If you’d like I can provide a list of human organs I contain. Would you like me to do that now?
It’s the hands. not enough fingers.
Yes, who in the right mind would draw a popup window behind the screen and forget to write the green command prompt in the second line
I mean, fair, but this image is ai generated tho.
Why is the image 5MB?
AI slop
DO YOU WANT US TO SET UP YOUR BACKUP NOW OR ASK AGAIN IN 3 DAYS?
*onedrive
It is onedrive but the screen I get presents it as setting up a backup of my files.
It’s not just AI, but new android phones drive me spare.
You can’t disable that. You can’t uninstall that. You can’t make a backup of the whole phone. You can’t make a backup of one app and restore it to a different phone, unless you go through Google. We’re going to install these apps you don’t want, and there’s no way to cancel it.
Grapheneos ftw
Yeah, I need to figure out GSIs. Finding non-flagship phones with decent custom rom communities is getting harder.
And even if you want to install Android Android, not Google Android, you need to set up Google Android, agree to Google T&C to unlock your bootloader.
My Android phone app started to show me “suggestions” instead of the call history. Geez, thanks Google. Instead of calling my GF, imma call a proctologist.
And I just know this feature will soon be used to serve me even more ads. I mean, the play store is bad enough as it is.DeGoogle your phone.
Universal Android Debloater.
It’s a community-rating systems for apps, and you can remove/permanently (even through os updates) disable them through ADB, without actually needing to know anything about ADB because uad comes in a nice GUI package.
I think I removed ~200 apps (most of them invisible, background ads stuff) from my phone. Much better experience.
And even simple things like the gallery is so bad, scanning your whole phone. I want the gallery yo show my photos, not my video collection or downloaded images.
I’m not rich, but if I could I’d jump ship with my xiaomi 13t.
Get a refurbished pixel and put grapheneos on it. Best thing I could ever do.
Yeah I need a good camera, and I heard the pixel is good. I’ll look into that, I can probably keep an older xiaomi for my banking app with all the google crap on it…
Actually, don’t rule out that your banking app works on Grapheneos! Mine is not marked as supported in the wiki and works!
I don’t have contactless payments because gpay doesn’t work, but it’s not a big deal (and it can be solved if you use curve or if you buy a garmin smartwatch)
check out the fossify gallery app. not on play store probably. it can ignore folders, or only look in some
Already got it ☺️ from F-Droid.
Pretty sure you can achieve the same with the standard gallery and other media apps by putting an empty file called
.nomediain the folders you want the apps to ignore. I’m using a third-party gallery app, but seems that the feature is widespread (likely because of the apps relying on Android’s own media scanning).Doesn’t work for me.
And to be honest, it feels like the whole “windows is usable you just have to…” do things all the time (then it gets removed from time to time, or changed or ignored)
Thanks for the tip though!
Just to check, did you put in the dot at the beginning of the file name? It’s the convention for hidden files in Unixes. Could just be that Xiaomi forgot to support this feature in their app, of course, and a third-party one would fix that, like the open-source Simple Gallery.
Anyway, I’d guess most people are fine with the gallery showing downloaded images — I know I need that to find the meme I want.
Yep I made it ‘hidden’ but it didn’t work. So maybe a Xiaomi thing for sure, and I already have the f-droid app so I’m good :-)
What OS do I need to avoid AI sloppers? No one is interested in your mediocre auto generated garbage.
I am interested.
Go anywhere else and you’ll find plenty of it
I really love my switch to linux. It’s not all sunshine and roses, i have some weird things that i can’t really fix. Some problems are “too hard” for me to fix and i don’t care enough. After installing Linux right after windows to dual boot, it’s so fucking nice to not have your computer trying to sell you shit all the time, and you don’t have to jump through hoops just to get you shit working.
What has been too hard to fix?
When my computer goes to sleep I no longer have audio when I resume using it. Unplugging and replugging my USB DAC is a workaround I’ve been using.
Yeah I’ve had similar problems. I use a usb/kvm switch to switch multiple laptops and desktops on a single monitor/keyboard/mouse. There should be a conf file somewhere that lets you set what gets switched when a usb gets plugged/unplugged or when the computer sleeps. I’m on my phone at the moment so I can’t easily look it up right now.
Let me know if you figure out where that is. Hopefully I can change that on Bazzite. Maybe I should consider hopping to base Fedora to avoid the atomic distro complications
Looks like this was a long time ago. I was using pulse audio on Ubuntu. Which I guess is ancient now. I had to edit /etc/pulse/default.pa And edit things like
load-module module-switch-on-connectwhich dealt with USB connect event handling.I don’t use bazzite, looks like that is a fedora based distro. Which I guess now uses pipewire/wireplumber. (And I guess ubuntu does too now?)
I would suggest googling something like “pipewire session.suspend-timeout-seconds”
You’ll find a bunch of similar issues:
This is for Mint, but I’m thinking this same “session.suspend-timeout-seconds” property is going to be what you are looking for.
It looks like setting that property to 0 might prevent suspend from stopping your audio.
If not, I think this gives you a pretty good idea of where to look for the config files:
/usr/share/wireplumberAnd from there, you can probably get a good idea of the various property names and what they do.
My laziness
The biggest gripe for me is completely disabling MMB copy-paste functionality and instead enabling autoscroll everywhere. Couldn’t achieve this in CachyOS, except for the browsers and maybe a few Electron-based applications.
Holding MMB to scroll like a touch screen drag also breaks canvas panning on MMB in Krita, so I had to disable it.
Basically, MMB behavior in CachyOS is really unappealing to a Windows user, but it seems to be baked into the system.
I thought autoscroll needs to be supported by every single program separately. but I’m fairly sure you can disable MMB paste on KDE, so it should be possible for other DEs too
GrapheneOS forcing updates by default :(
If you don’t want a secure OS, you can at any time just install Linaege
That’s not the point. There are many reasons why unattended updates could be a pain. Stop trying to dismiss things like Daniel Micay
Forcing updates is horrible regardless of the reason
You must be too young to remember the months out of date mess that was the typical Windows system back in the XP days. Forget “I don’t have the latest service pack” it was more “I am still vulnerable to a two year old “zero day”!”
I think a big reason for wanacy was also unpatched computers in corporate. Still it sucks that MS cannot be a good steward and chooses to keep a hostile attitude to its users in many regards.
Ha! As if Ubuntu didnt update on its own and then completely killed my internet access because it changed the file system of how it stores DNS but didnt somehow do it right to the point of me spending 3 hours figuring out what file I had to recreate and why to get it working again.
Linux is cool but not this make believe version of cool.
Well see that’s your problem right there, you’re using ubuntu /j
Yeah. Maybe. I know I will never try arch again and I thought Ubuntu was supposed to be one of the good ones but its been so much stress.
I dont want to have to completely redo my whole system and all the software just to try a different OS flavorJust use what you like. Every linux has its quirks :)
I switched to Debian with KDE. Same basics as Ubuntu without their oversight.
Problem with ubuntu is that it’s corporate driven, with the corporate mindset. theybare not as bad as microsoft, but they are regularly showing their teeth. not with this of course, this is “just” a mistake of some kind
I have no idea when it happened, but there’s a mechanism in place to download updates but only install them on reboot, kinda similar to windows, but when you want instead of when it want. It’s kinda the best of both world : updates are quick to install, downloaded in the background, and no workflow interruption.
Ah. I have only figured out the check for updates daily, weekly or never options. I am leaning into never as this is the third time an Ubuntu update has made me want to curl up in a ball and die.
I dont find thus constant tech support fun.
Weird. I understand you did have issues, but that’s so far from my experience. Despite major annoyance at the project’s direction, I’m staying on ubuntu because it’s been a mostly stress-free experience as a user (and I have an nvidia card, which does NOT help in that regard…).
never updating anymore is a bad idea. on linux even your web browser is only updated along with the system (unless you use the flatpak package), and all browsers regularly patch previously unknown security vulnerabilities
But if the internet is dead, you can’t curl!
(Well, depending on what broke, I guess localhost may work)
You might prefer a more curated experience like Bazzite.
Probably, but it is not a gaming device but a network managing one and its been running for way before bazzite and just the thought of having to configure it all again makes my skin crawl.
just the thought of having to configure it all again makes my skin crawl
It took me ages to get the nerve to redo my media server. Then some of my hardware failed and I had to redo it again… By the third time redoing it I had become a lot more confident.
Also you learn to take notes on everything you touch and make backups lol
DOS user: updates? I can set the date in the BIOS if I need…
Lucky you had a motherboard with a CMOS battery. Without that*, you needed to enter the time and date every time the computer booted / rebooted.
* Or a capacitor instead.
I had to chuckle in an exasperated way when I opened the Xbox app on my phone… and there’s a fucking Copilot tab in there as well.
I understand the use cases for AI, but Microsoft seems to be throwing the whole lot at the wall and seeing what sticks.
You’re the (working for free) tester now.
Hey, at least it’s not the (pay to be) tester that many AAA games give us now.
Let AI play the game for you so you can do chores around the house
