Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.
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I am unreasonably angry about the stretched icons.
Hey, hey you.
Get some.
I’ll join you. 😡
Revolt (now known as Stoat) isn’t federated though.
Is there a federated version, either in the works or planned? Because otherwise, Stoat is the only option.
No.
Other alternatives are Root, not federated.
There’s also Roomy in development which is federated, and will tie into Bluesky.
Links?
Well damn, I need to update the pic I guess. I didn’t make it, just saved it some months ago
Is peer tube any good ?
No.
But mainly because content creators are on YouTube to get audience and a small profit. The technology is fine otherwise.
This is an interesting economics problem. How can a p2p FOSS alternative compete with advertising revenue? The YouTube creators don’t even get most of the money, so it wouldn’t need to be perfect to be better.
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Also, to avoid doing unpaid labour for Jeff Bezos, go from Goodreads to Bookwyrm!
I’m a little behind on this, what does goodreads have to do with bezos?
In 2013 Goodreads was sold to Amazon 😭
As pointed out, Goodreads has been owned by Amazon for a good while. And they also own slices of some other similar book sites (LibraryThing, for example, and some other site that was merged into Goodreads).
Nice suggestion. I didn’t know this was a thing. :)
Should be Lemmy over piefed.
I’ve seen the Reddit users be more receptive of PieFed over Lemmy. In a post suggesting Lemmy, the Reddit users will just comment that it looks ugly, it’s confusing, devs are tankies, etc. Posts suggesting PieFed get less complaints and more signups.
Also I think the instance choice is easier for PieFed compared to Lemmy. If you tell people to use Lemmy, they’ll probably end up on lemmy.world which is overpopulated, or lemmy.ml…
Yeah but this is like when Disney makes star wars tv shows. Ignore what the current audience likes and use the show as a vehicle to try and tell them what they should like.
I didnt think they could do worse than Discovery but the Academy is incredibly bad. On the plus side, Im rewatching Deep Space Nine again.
And BlueSky over Mastodon
There doesn’t need to be a replacement for everything. How much does the world need to revolve around a random person’s hot-take in 140 characters or as many seconds. These are artificial walls.
So uh, you joined lemmy why then?
I joined because I got banned from Reddit. Unjustly I claim.
All due respect to Mastodon but BlueSky is way more viable right now.
What’s the difference between Lemmy and piefed, and why should be choose one over the other?
You don’t have to. Piefed is different software. It does have more features: custom feeds, hashtags, flairs, polls, events, keyword filtering, scheduled posts and more. Much of this is also arriving in lemmy 1.0, but the release so far is undated.
But some people dislike the UI of Piefed.
To users they’re both mostly the same but PieFed has more features and a much better UX, so it’s the one I choose to promote.
But how does one switch from Lemmy to Piefed?
You can register on a Piefed instance and use Lemmy’s subscription export feature and Piefed’s import feature to retain your subscriptions. Porting comments/posts isn’t a thing.
There’s work underway creating migration scripts for Lemmy databases to be imported to Piefed, but that is a tool for instance administrators only, of course.
You create a new account on a Piefed instance. There’s a lot to choose from like Piefed.social, piefed.ca, piefed.blahaj.zone, etc
Theres a lot of animosity right now between some Piefed and Lemmy users for some reason. I use both, I dunno why people are picking this fight right now, it seems pretty fucking dumb to me.
mbin should be on there too IMO. similar to Lemmy but it federates properly with microblog stuff.
What I miss is a auth service for all of them. Something like a “common user” where you can have all your Fediverse services under the same user.
All the proposed services/technologies would benefit the wider consumer base and the user but switching is too big an ask for many people. We need to encourage people into using “as well as” the global defaults. That will build the network effects that lower the cost of fully switching
An easier and bigger immediate impact would come from people replacing Chrome and google search with respectful alternatives, and/or replacing gmail or outlook with private services like proton or tuta.
Starve the surveillance machines a little bit.Look, I’m looking at reddit posts about niche stuff like a fiend. But when I make a post, I always go here first
I’ve switched, but I haven’t stopped searching old reddit posts. The cache of information is just too rich to pass up.
It’s all about mindset. I’m all in fediverse, despite actually using reddit sometimes. Switching doesn’t mean blocking the entire website
We need to encourage people into using “as well as” the global defaults.
agreed, we need “Monthly Try Something New Day”
Can we self host loops yet? I’ve been holding out on that one. Not that I use tiktok but I would use loops and could probably get my wife to jump.
Peertube isn’t really a viable alternative. There isn’t a substantial enough audience for creators and there isn’t really enough content for an audience. I guess if you’re one of the 100 people watching transport evolved that’s cool but it isn’t really a meaningful alternative. I suppose it could be supplementary, but why would creators want to drive their traffic to a site that doesn’t actually matter for their visibility? I imagine the same probably applies to loops.
Also, like, with video you kind of want a reliable host that you know isn’t going anywhere.
The rest are okay as long as you’re not super worried about how many people are seeing what you post. Lemmy and Piefed are great for content aggregation and discussion, but they seem to be the only ones that at this point actually do anything that might be helpful.
I’ve tried Mastodon and while it’s way better than Twitter it isn’t exactly providing a way to reach a substantial audience. Personal websites are probably a better bet for ease of access.
I feel the same about PeerTube. And the fact it is a defederated network with opt in to federation is a bad model IMO. There’s no way for a creator to get paid, either AFAIK.
I tried it out. First sign up, I was shuttled to an instance federated with only two other instances. Second sign up, I found what looked like an active instance but there still is just a lack of content. I’m not sure how to fix any of its issues as I see them. I’d love an actual YouTube competitor
My main issue with peertube is that I find it confusing. Its not self contained in the sense on how to subscribe to channels or people. AFAIK you also need a mastodon account for it and to jump through some hoops to subscribe to a creator.
For most other formats, everyone creates and shares: photos, posts, sharing links. For more crafted video material, there’s too much of an imbalance between the number of watchers vs creators to make a new platform an easy sell. You’d need a strong creator promise like Nebula.
Yeah, agreed. The one thing the platforms you see that aren’t YouTube that creators actually use have in common is financial incentive. Nebula is the best example here. Creators get a cut and have more creative freedom, so they actually use it and try to direct their audience to it for bonus content, which seems to actually work. Patreon is similar for a lot of creators, letting them put out additional content with fewer restrictions and letting them get more income from their viewers.
Some people also seem to have some success with independent platforms. If you look at like a Dropout or Viva Plus, these are both putting stuff out on YouTube and then drawing users in with subscriptions, and that seems to be a sound model.
But Peertube produces zero dollars for creators, which means they have no incentive to push users there. In fact, they’re incentivized to avoid doing so because there are other platforms that will actually pay them if they can direct traffic there. Peertube lacks both the money-making side of things and the exposure side of things, so there’s no real reason to use it.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see something independent like Peertube take off, but the model doesn’t really work.
Because YouTube can shoot down you account and all your videos get blocked if they want?
Every political content creator should use PeerTube at least as a backup.
They just use IG and TT as backups. Yeah, you could be banned from all three. But that’s where the audience is, so without that why bother?
I love the idea of fediverse video, but even I don’t use it. No content I care about. No audience that would care about me. I get more visibility on a Lemmy post that just says “beans” than I would spending an hour making a 30 second video.
No service starts as the winner. Each one has to work it’s way up (or down).
But I don’t say “don’t use YT”. Use it is you want (I do too). But, if you are a content creator, use PF as a backup. There are already some channels that do.
Most of them have Patreon for that, which actually produces income.
What’s the incentive? All they would be doing is pushing views away from platforms where having viewers actually benefits them, either through metrics or income or both.
Honestly the best way to get that going might be to have a company and offer sponsorship deals with the requirement that creators also post to Peertube. But that would require companies having a reason to want people on Peertube.
Linux Weekly News already has a channel in YT and the same channel¹ in PT, with a sponsor (Tuxedo Computers).
¹ the same videos uploaded in both places.
Done. I thought it was going to be difficult leaving YouTube but then they blocked new pipe which was my YT crutch. I don’t know what they were thinking I was going to do but it was not re installing their app.
Newpipe works fine for me, have you updated it?
PipePipe has never let me down yet. In case you still need to interact with YouTube.
It started to just error out on every video. Some people suggest to revert a couple of versions. But I simply gave up. There’s no anything there that I need.
PipePipe is a fork of NewPipe, with more and better features (like built in SponsorBlock). I was watching videos on it just an hour ago.
Looks like there was an update over the weekend. I got to watch this video.
Try Greyjay for YouTube
