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  • Scrollone@feddit.itEnglish
    6·
    2 days ago

    Just buy a domain with your surname and call it a day. Then you can have all the email addresses you want

  • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    2 days ago

    Literally what is the point of this besides inducing users into expanding their future userbase? This is like the Simpsons spoof where the army gets elementary school kids to pre-enlist.

    My first ever email is my first name that I lucked out on a very big domain and aside from the showoff of looking cool, it has been utterly destroyed by spam and people with the same name putting in a dummy email for whatever form they fill out.

    So unless you want your kid to have some oddly specific and famous email address, there is zero difference in just making one when you need to.

    Also:

    Stronger legal protection

    Your data is safeguarded under Switzerland’s strict privacy laws, some of the strongest in the world.

    What a joke bruh. Piratebay had better OPSEC than these fed sucking morons, and they had their servers constantly seized after the USA got involved.

    Proton folds under zero pressure when they so much as so get a hint of a warrant. Don’t even jump in here with a “Privacy is not Anonymity” and “muh Swiss laws” response. They specifically advertised such capability until the government came after them, and then only changed their policy after assisting them in providing access logs and fingerprint data for that french climate activist.

    They know their marketing material makes it sound much better than it really is, and they know that no one reads the fine print. Metadata not being protected is a critical difference, and it’s how a solid chunk of the NSA’s data collection schemes function.

    Imagine for a moment that you started an Anti-Google campaign and happened to have a protonmail account. They could just lobby the US government to go smack Switzerland’s face, and next thing you know you’re being detained in a 5 eyes country for exercising free speech, despite them claiming to only provide such metadata to police under “criminal activity”.

    • asqapro@reddthat.comEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      Here’s an article clarifying the latter half of this comment’s claims: https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/07/protonmail_hands_user_ip_address_police/

      Relevant bits from the article:

      Encrypted email service ProtonMail has become embroiled in a minor scandal after responding to a legal request to hand over to Swiss police a user’s IP address and details of the devices he used to access his mailbox – resulting in the netizen’s arrest.

      Back in January this year, the company’s homepage stated: “No personal information is required to create your secure email account. By default, we do not keep any IP logs which can be linked to your anonymous email account. Your privacy comes first.”

      Today that boast has been replaced with a mealy-mouthed version: “ProtonMail is email that respects privacy and puts people (not advertisers) first. Your data belongs to you, and our encryption ensures that. We also provide an anonymous email gateway.”

  • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
    351·
    3 days ago

    I don’t think it’s a ridiculous idea? Children these days – I’d assume – need an email address at an increasingly younger age. So you pay $1 to get an indefinite voucher for that address – which might actually be worthwhile to some if their child’s name is somewhat common and the full name is available today without a bullshit string of numbers at the end.

    Granted there’s no guarantee Proton will be around in e.g. 8 years, but so far, they seem to be doing reasonably well, and $1 is, like, the price of an apple.

  • x00z@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10·
    3 days ago

    I’ll register xXx_sNiPeRbOy_69_xXx@protonmail.com just in case my kid becomes a gamer.

  • ozoned@piefed.socialEnglish
    91·
    3 days ago

    I’ve been in proton for about ten years, I think? I am a paying customer, and one of the first things I did was grab emails for my kids when they were born. But maybe they won’t even need them. You could also just get a domain and have access to all names.

    I don’t think it’s a terrible idea, but it feels kind of odd for sure. To each their own though.

    • 「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      282·
      3 days ago

      No company will go to jail for your privacy.

      The only “privacy” you have to hoping the laws of the jurisdiction where its operated in is privacy-friendly, if the courts there decide to issue a warrant, you’re fucked.

      The takeaway: Use cash payments and use a VPN when accessing Protonmail.

      (ProtonVPN and ProtonMail are governed by different laws. Swiss courts can demand logging of a MAIL provider but not a VPN provider… so you have to use ProtonVPN (or another no-log VPN to access ProtonMAIL…)

      • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
        54·
        3 days ago

        I agree but I do think they could be more forward in disclosure. Like “hey in the case of a federal subpoena, your account address, backup email, and payment information could be disclosed to authorities”.

    • Steve@communick.newsEnglish
      242·
      3 days ago

      So you want them to defy the courts and be shut down?
      If it’s a legal cort ordered request for information (which this was) they have to comply. It’s not really optional any more.

    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
      182·
      3 days ago

      Yeah, how dare Proton have forced that customer to use their personally identifying credit card when they paid for the service! I can’t believe Proton AG prevented them specifically from using cash or cryptocurrency when they openly allow and advertise it for everyone else. Especially when that person was allegedly in (what the US government considers) a domestic terror cell; Proton should’ve known the risks.

      And then on top of all that, they readily sent the Swiss government that credit card information completely out of the blue. Bastards!