cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/45698244

Trump expects people to believe he “wasn’t that involved” in Hungary’s election. There’s a whole lot of evidence to the contrary.

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    16 hours ago

    I want to thank President Trump for his successfully failed attempt to make Orban win the election 😂😂😂

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    If Shady Vance was there helping Orban to lose then you know it’s trump approved.

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    I am pretty much convinced that the US’ involvement in the election had an adverse effect and actually cost Orbán many votes. I think many Hungarians dont make an effort to research reliable news (Hungarian media was controlled by Orbán) and supported him because hes nationalist af which is the most important value for most Hungarians. But when people see US politicians who actively destroy their own country and are the laughing stock of the whole world vouch for Orbán, maybe that triggered some ‘wait a minute’ moment.

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      Oh, don’t worry… most Hungarians that exclusively watch Orbán controlled media (imagine Fox news from most freely available channels) don’t know much about the US - especially not about the struggles of the country. They might see things like Trump meeting a political leader or shaping world politics (like ganging on Zelensky with Vance), but media almost never covered negative things about the government or its friends (but happily threw shit at opponents, of course - even as far as straight lying to smear them).

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        I think most people (including Hungarians) are confronted with US news through the internet and through other people who use the internet, even involuntarily. At least the Hungarians I know have heard about a lot of shit Trump and his minions are doing. On the other hand, Hungarian news are not that prominent on the internet, so you would have to actively search for it, which most probably dont do because they watch TV already.

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          Yeah, the same goes the other way around. Don’t get me wrong, quite a good number of Hungarians do read about world politics, including the US; they are just not your average Orbán voters (not saying those people don’t; but the majority doesn’t). Oh, and the ones that do browse the Internet for news: your average Hungarian mostly browses Facebook where everything is tailored to keep you in your bubble. Younger people tend to use other sources, of course, but FB is still the default social media site there.

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    2 days ago

    If this is the outcome, I hope he gets involved with the rest of the fascist campaigns out there

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      2 days ago

      Didn’t JD also endorse some AfD chuds in Germany last year, only to see their numbers drop even further?

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        Unfortunately it didn’t help that much. Thanks to the total incompetence of all mainstream parties in Germany, whose members usually just care about their personal income instead of Germany doing well, AFD managed finally to overtake all parties. I expect them to be in a coalition in one of the next two federal elections.

        Source: Zeit

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          I used to think that, but the thing is people who dont actively vote AfD absolutely despise them, so CDU doing a coalition with them would probably cost them like 80% lf their voters for future elections. If they are willing to risk that, they better prepare the fascist takeover together with AfD or theyre fucked. I hope they know that and act accordingly.

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      2 days ago

      Send Vance to every country to campaign for the far right, we welcome him with open arms ;)

      We’ll have to hide all couches but it’ll be worth it in the long run.

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      I mean, technically isn’t Trump correct for once? He didn’t even do the phone call. This was all JD’s flipper baby.