• Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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    10 hours ago

    If AI worked, we would have had self driving cars by now.

    I can’t think of anything good that we have today cause of AI that we didn’t have 5 years ago.

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      6 hours ago

      I rode in one last month, down the highway.

      Even the most pessimistic reports of human involvement still puts them in the ‘mostly self-driving’ camp, and I’d rather have one with a fallback than one without.

      Should I disbelieve my lying eyes?

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        6 hours ago

        mostly self-driving

        Yeah I wouldn’t call that self driving.

        Here is a genuine question for you, how did the cost compare to an uber ride? Was it a fraction of it?

        Technological leaps have always provided huge reductions of cost, I do wonder how expensive robo taxis would be compared to regular ones

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          4 hours ago

          I don’t think we’ll ever stop moving the goal posts. You can still meet people who don’t use computers and have never seen the use in them.

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            3 hours ago

            Moving the goal post? Self driving has the word self in it, if anything I’m insisting on keeping the goal post.

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              There are 70 drivers for 3000 vehicles. Which goal is good enough for you? We’ll make a note, I’ll tell you when we passed it, and you can tell me why it’s not real. I’m willing to wait.

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                I would have imagined self driving means 0 drivers

                It would also include all driving conditions

                For the record, I’m not saying that’s not impressive, I’m just going by the definition.

                I honestly thought we would have automated truck drivers by now, which imo is when shit really hits the fan.

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      10 hours ago

      It AI worked, we would have had self driving cars by now.

      We don’t have self-driving cars because no corporation is insane enough to take on the liability for driving a fleet of cars on our highways - it’s a bloodbath out there (when you look at it from the large-scale view), and anyone operating 10,000+ vehicles out there is going to be involved in multiple fatal accidents per year.

      When it’s UPS operating a fleet of trucks, the liability for the 30-ish people killed per year in collisions with their trucks is handled driver-to-driver. When “the robot” is out there up against the world, who’s the jury going to side with?

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        8 hours ago

        Yep juries will pick the person every time. You only need ONE that hits the headlines… bus load of kids, famous person etc and your brand is annihilated

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        10 hours ago

        If they have a similar rate of accidents as regular people, wouldn’t it be easier to mitigate risk through insurance since they are at scale?

        You can go as far as to say that self driving manufacturers could insure their cars themselves since they have thousands of vehicles.

        If what your saying is true, then insurance wouldn’t be profitable today

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          10 hours ago

          Insurance companies have resorted to denying everything and forcing their customers to sue them for their money. I’d say that’s a pretty good sign it isn’t actually profitable today.

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            6 hours ago

            Insurance is a numbers game: actuarial tables, predictable risk, predictable liability, and they do pay out occasionally, they even pay out ridiculously over-valued claims occasionally, as part of a numbers game that keeps their overall costs as low as possible.

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            9 hours ago

            Isn’t profitable? Insurance companies are definitely making profits because of their tactics of doing that to their customers,