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“Let’s partner with a bot maker to prevents bots. This is not about collecting and selling user data. No, not at all” 🙄😑
The Match Group-owned platform is partnering with World, the identity verification project by OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, to introduce a system that uses iris scans to confirm a person is human.
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You want some fuk? Give us you biometric data!
As soon as it mentioned eye scanning I assumed Sam Altman was involved. Didn’t he have that world coin thing where he scanned a bunch of eyes in impoverished countries?
IIRC altman stiffed the Brazillians who scanned their irises in his scam, never paid a dime
If this truly were about keeping bots off the platform, I’d predict a great improvement in how genAI renders human eyes. Either way: supposed problem not solved, but more sensitive data collected in the process. Task failed successfully.
Oh, people didn’t like the idea of giving their ID to third parties? Let’s move up to irreplaceable body parts. Next step: your fucking blood. Good luck declaring that one stolen when the database inevitably leaks.
That reminds me of my ex, she was willing to give her physical address and phone number to anyone who asked, but not her email address, because of security concerns.
Maybe it is finally time for open-source(ish) dating to make an impact!
(It won’t. I tried it a couple years back and it is a ghost town!)

It’s probably a Goldilocks zone thing where too few prevents it from working, and too many will inevitably be overrun by bots and scanners.

Also in Minority Report, they do the whole eye scanning thing.
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The writing on the wall says this will be required to access anything on the internet. I’ll go a step farther and say, DNA will be required to access the internet. Only once life would be impossible to live without access. Getting closer and closer.
All they had to do was improve their facial recognition to scan all photos. Scammers would use fake photos and put their real photo (ai edited slightly) as the their last photo. This allowed them to get verified, but still scam. They don’t need more biometrics. Other apps are doing fine without your iris scans.
Yeah but then they wouldn’t get to collect people’s biometric data to sell to the highest bidder.
From what I’ve read, the “dating” meat market apps are doing horrible. I doubt they want to invest in a sinking ship, at least more than they have to.

Sure, let’s pretend they care about that issue. It’s not about collecting user data to re-sell later, oh no
Why are they so insistant of iris scans? What are they getting out of it?
Data to sell
Because it’s “futuristic” and fascists are obsessed with that image
No, it is because it is a unique identifier for them to collect and sell.
You know it’s most likely not an either/or thing. It’s most likely both.
Fascists are very obsessed with image. It’s a big chunk of why the Nazis hired Hugo Voss to design the SS uniforms
Fair enough.
Could be unique like a fingerprint. Might be able to crosscheck this with other biometric data, like when a picture is taken at airports or border crossings.
Those fast track lines at the airport I recently read somewhere is supplied by a private entity, which means all those face scans are just added into a database for future surveillance.
In the context of online dating, I actually agree with implementing the same level of KYC checks that banks and credit card issuers have adopted. I also think the FTC needs to step in and break up the monopoly Match Group has created.
All of these platforms are littered with fake profiles, scammers and foreign women searching for the means to a green card. It’s made them practically unusable.
A/S/L
If that’s a serious question, 34/M/Bristol.
Oh I just watched a video on this the other day, apparently scammers (like the types who do romance scams, pretending to be a gorgeous guy, then taking all your money) are getting around this security function.
They upload all stolen pics of a gorgeous guy (probably exists for women versions too) then there’s one picture of them, because they have to have one pic of themselves to get the verification tick. But that one pic is obscured, like a face on a billboard or add on a poster on a street. And then tinder verifies the whole account, regardless of the other pics. I forget, it’s either bumble or hinge, I think it was bumble, deletes all the pics that don’t look like you, after verification, so those were sites that block that scam.
That’s an aside from ai profiles. There does need to be something to protect users from scammers. I couldn’t ever speak for what the best verification option is, myself.
I watched the video yesterday! Here are links for those interested:
Something very weird is happening on Tinder (YouTube)
Something very weird is happening on Tinder (Invidious mirror)
That was really well done. Where he went through and tested the verification process, to see how far he could push it. That bit was really eye opening.
god damnit i was planning on re joining tinder soon. not anymore
its just full of people who are not actually looking for anyone, crazy people, people who will not answer you ever. And on top of that, there is like will be 10 men for every woman and if you dont pay you will be at the very bottom of the list, if you pay you will be competing with others who pay, except those who pay more who will still be above you.
Its miserable experience, dont do it to yourself.
Our Tinder experiences must have been very different.
Yes, men are competing in theory, but no more so than in real life. And the app literally puts you in contention with them.
The other thing is, if you’ve decided that it is in fact a competition, then the thing to remember is that those other people are also competing with you. Just don’t consider them, they’re not relevant to you.
My girlfriend had 80+ matches when I started talking to her. I had 3. And yet here we are. I’ve no doubt it was the same for the other women I met on there.
Dating on apps is the same as dating in real life. If you’re genuinely searching for someone, you need to get yourself noticed and be the best that you can be. The basics are equally important in both worlds. Be a good person, make people laugh, be interesting, be interested in them, don’t immediately be a thirsty prick, exercise, feel good about yourself, etc, etc.
My girlfriend had 80+ matches when I started talking to her. I had 3. And yet here we are.
That math ain’t mathing, bud. You ever wonder what’s going on with the 77 other women you didn’t match with? Or are we supposed to believe they somehow never actually existed? Are hospitals lying about the number of girls born into the world? Are 90% of girls dying as children? Do women have lower standards for relationships? Is there one guy out there engaged in polygamy with all 77 women? Or are they all ugly and don’t deserve love?
Conversely, why did your girlfriend have to go through 80+ guys to get to you?
Dating apps are incel factories. They have no incentive to actually match you with a mate at all, much less a soulmate. The fact that you did anyway is actually a failure-to-profit on their part, and you have successfully defied their business model and found love despite their efforts. Good for you.
Good for you doesn’t imply good for everyone though, nor good for society. They are toxic hellholes, and I stand by my assertion that they are what broke dating (for almost everyone, genuinely glad they didn’t get you, enjoy your life of never having to use a dating app again)
You ever wonder what’s going on with the 77 other women you didn’t match with? Or are we supposed to believe they somehow never actually existed?
I don’t need to wonder, you can literally download your statistics, and they provide comparative results. But I would have thought the reason was obvious.
Most men literally swipe right on everyone. Most women are considerably more selective. They get more matches because chances are the guy they’ve swiped right on has already swiped right on them. That aspect is not a conspiracy.
Exactly the same as if your hot wife suddenly divorced you. There will be far more men knocking down her door than women knocking on yours.
It doesn’t sound like you really have any understanding of, or concern for, what happened to the other 77 women, nor what happened to the other 79+ men your girlfriend “swiped left” on in your scenario.
And you’re accusing me of using boomer logic? That’s some classic boomer logic if I’ve ever heard it: “I got mine, fuck the rest of you, it’s obvious why you all failed, you just need to work harder or lower your standards, even though I didn’t, because everything just worked out flawlessly for me and I don’t want to be too introspective about why in case I accidentally develop some empathy about it”
Yeah, dating apps are just fine the way they are. Nothing wrong with them at all.
😂😂😂
This is almost exactly the opposite of what I was saying, and it’s a very telling interpretation.
No, I have no concern for the other men I was “competing” with. Why would I? They have absolutely zero bearing on my own successes or failure. If one of them got the girl, am I supposed to be mad about it?
As I said anecdotally, the majority of my friends met their partners on an app. There is no “I got mine”. I gave advice on what worked for me. The literal basics, widely acknowledged, that apply online or off. I’m not sure what other advice I’m supposed to offer in that respect that shows I “have empathy or concern for the other 79 men” that you’ve mentioned.
I’m also not sure what you’re talking about with regards to my concern for “the other 77 women”. Who are they? People who didn’t match with me? That’s fine - if someone’s not into my profile, then that’s okay. Do I have to be concerned for them somehow? In what way?
People have their own successes on the apps. Nearly 20% of UK adults under 50 met their partner on an app. That’s current partner - not all partners. The percentage who met anyone is higher.
To be honest if this tone is a reflection of how you talk to people online, then it goes some way to explain why you might not being seeing success on dating apps, presuming that’s the case. Try not to assume the worst.
It’s gotten really, really bad, you’re not missing much. It’s borderline useless and all about getting you to pay out the ass for “premium features.”
I miss old-school OKCupid. Fuck Match Group.
any suggestions on what to use? im getting a bit tired of not meeting people
I wish I knew. Some people like Facebook Dating, and it’s still at least “free,” but I’ve personally made it my goal to meet people in-person and, to that end, I’ve been (gently) rejected twice in the last few weeks. Trying to put myself out there though, which has its own thrill.
yeah maybe i should rejoin facebook. appreciate your time, and best luck. :)
Likewise!













