I thought microsoft wanted to put less ai in their shit? Who would have thaught.
I’m still mad Microsoft hasn’t integrated Copilot into the calculator app yet. How can you possibly do calculations without AI confidently telling you wrong results?? /s
Don’t give them more ideas!
this is a joke… right?
This is a fcking joke! I’m so sick of Microslop integrating AI into fcking everything. I just want to use my PC without any of this bloat. It just gets worse and worse. I can’t believe they would do somethi… wait a minute… I’m using linux. Nevermind then.
I think there’s something wrong with your u key. It doesn’t seem to work when preceded by an f.
Microsoft: “We want to fix Windows and make it great again!”
The fix:
Everyone keep helping more people switch to Linux and help them be part of in-person/online groups. To discuss Linux, and get help where needed.
It takes Windows 11 a minute to load the “control panel” window… just hangs.
Re-release XP and be done with it, you’re bad and you should feel bad.
Early W10 was actually pretty decent. I have it running on a windows tablet, and a stick pc, both 2gb RAM.
One is getting Linux, but I have to do a bit of digging to decide on the distro, as many are becoming kind of bloated too.
I use CP/M, BTW.
Set alarm for 10am
OK setting alarm for 20am
What follows is our plan to raise the bar on Windows 11 quality this year, with a focus on performance, reliability and well-crafted experiences.
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Executive Vice President, Windows + DevicesOnly thing that could possibly help would be him falling out a window on-top of the guy that would replace him. Maybe third in line isn’t a chud
Sorry, it’s chuds all the way down
What was that about Windows K2 again? Ah, who cares
They gave up, K2 is a tougher climb than Everest.
much more dangerous too,
If they had tried at least we’d get a 1/5 chance that the windows market stranglehold dies lol.
I think instead of the computer showing you the time, they should replace the clock program with a chat prompt so you can ask the computer to guess what the time is
Yeah, good luck. I’m fuddling about with a local AI setup, with RAG and web access, and it usually accesses like 2-3 websites and takes a bit to figure out time and date.
Nadella won’t be satisfied until he maps everyone’s enter key to fuckong copilot.
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I’d switch if every discussion about Linux didn’t devolve into lengthy discussions about the complicated ways you need get anything working on it.
This was somewhat true 15 to 10 years ago. It wasn’t true for a while. There is however endless amount of discussions about the way to make it just the way you like it and because a lot of that is subjective, those will get heated. However if you want it to just work, that is pretty easy to arrange.
My wife is a linguist and an English teacher, about as far from being a tech person as you can get. She’s running Arch daily since 2020, and the only help she needed from me was to set it up and to teach how to install and update apps. The amount of tech support that was required of me almost daily when she was running Windows can’t even be compared.Like… what exactly lol?
Most discussions about Linux here devolve into distro sledging lol.
Even the joke stuff like Nvidia is from a bygone era.
My personal recommendation is Fedora, but any competent distro is miles more user friendly than current windows 11.
Distros from that joke stuff era are more user friendly than Windows 11.
I’m still plugging along with Windows 10. :) It’s mostly just laziness about having to go through and reinstall everything on a clean install that’s causing the most resistance to change, and the thought of learning an operating system I’m not familiar with just adds to the inertia.
What even are the significant differences with different distros? I’ve seen Bazzite recommended as the best one for gaming. Mint comes pretty strongly recommended as well.
Yeah, I get that. But you’ll have to do that anyway and when the time comes, getting Linux will be there for you.
Regarding distros, it really doesn’t matter at the beginning, hoping from distro to distro if you need it later is dead easy, most of the time it’s as easy as running one command to install all the apps, and copying your /home/ dir, it will transfer wast majority of all your settings, if not all. Some apps are stubborn but those are outliers.
So the choice of a distro basically comes to a single thing you care about. Like, for example, some are “rolling release”, which means they try to have all the libs and apps and other shit up to date, some are “stable”, which means they don’t update that often. Both have their ups and downs, personally I find rolling releases easier to deal with.
The biggest difference for a novice is what desktop environment is the default one, and that’s basically a matter of preference (but actually KDE is the best of them, and that’s my objective opinion).laziness about having to go through and reinstall everything on a clean install
Package managers make this a breeze to the point that people upload their personal script to github so they can run one command to get all of their software and theming on a new PC lol.
No need to even go that far, just pop open the app “store” (everything is free lol) and just click away at everything you want. Can probably get most of your stuff in 10 minutes tops.
What even are the significant differences with different distros?
It boils down to how effective the user experience & preference is and what the backend is built on (which usually affects user experience & preference lol).
Mint is highly recommended because it cleans up a ton of the random stuff from Ubuntu upstream and maintains a clean and low cost (cpu/ram usage) desktop environment that’s very easy to use. It’s highly recommended for anyone who is new or inexperienced with linux or OSs in general and just wants to get on with life. The single downside is that its packages are not the latest and greatest, so its great for everything except gaming where you want the new stuff like drivers, proton upgrades, new features, etc.
Fedora is what Ubuntu was 15 years ago, which is best all around user experience. It chooses very sensible but cutting edge packages which gives you excellent performance benefits of new tech like BTRFS/XFS without losing out on stability. It’s also the distro Linus himself uses because he finds it easy to just install and again, get on with life lol. Fedora also has excellent user docs and forums which is great if you need help with something. Only downside is I think you have to flick a switch (or run a command) to enable all video codecs because they don’t ship it on their main package repository since H264 & HEVC have weird licensing issues.
Bazzite is a downstream of Fedora Silverblue, which is an atomic distro that makes it really hard to screw something up by using a read only root and rollback-able updates, similar to Android and SteamOS. It was specifically designed to make gaming on handhelds an easy out of box experience so you don’t have to manually set up stuff like touchscreen keyboards or power settings on non PC hardware. You can run it on PC if you’d like the benefit of the rollback image system which can unbork your machine super easy, though it already is quite hard to bork because the root filesystem is read only, so apps are installed in a similar way as Android apps (Flatpak).
Learning Linux is actually quite intuitive (thankfully), and everything from the GUI perspective is mostly the same, if not an outright improvement in several areas. I would highly recommend playing with the live install of whichever distro you pick along with the desktop environment to get a feel for how it looks before you commit to an install.
Desktop Environments are also not tied to distros. You can basically choose any DE on any distro (like Mint’s Cinnamon on Fedora), but the two biggest ones are GNOME (Mac like) and KDE (Windows like). I think KDE is way better than GNOME, but you can play with both & more to see which one you prefer.
Your main issue to figure out when permanently switching is if there is any software or process that you rely on in Windows that would be different in Linux. For me it was switching from Microsoft Office to LibreOffice (there are also more, like OnlyOffice), which was completely painless since it was like 95% the same and could open up docx just fine.
The other possible ones could be:
- Adobe stuff (some stuff like PS works, but it’s a bit involved to setup the first time)
- Games that use kernel level anticheat (big nono in linux because it breaks security)
The second one is really what’s keeping a lot of people from making a permanent change which I’m hoping Valve can change with the upcoming Steam Machine because even for Windows, its like running a rootkit that really should not have that level of access to your PC.
I don’t play any games that utilize it, but you might and it won’t work on linux until the publisher decides to let it: https://areweanticheatyet.com/. The comments are usually outdated back from when the game first released, so as long is it’s green or blue, it should run out of box.
Some publishers (Epic Games mostly) are also just dicks that don’t use kernel level in some games but still choose not to enable linux support when compiling their game, despite all the major anitcheat vendors supporting linux and even mac.
The good news is that for everything else, there’s a pretty good chance you’ll actually see an increase in performance from Windows. The biggest one for me was World of Warships which went from 2 minutes load times down to just 30 seconds on a hard drive, and about 15-20%+ FPS even when on an SSD.
There are certain Linux distributions that come with all basics pre-installed and are designed to be convenient. All ubuntu derivatives, Mint, Pop_OS, Zorin etc. I know it because I use one and it’s just as convenient as Windows.
You can be sure these distributions will cause you no trouble because they are made by companies that put them in their computers or design them to be on pre-builts and therefore cannot be allowed to be difficult to use. For example, System76 developed Pop_OS to be used in their PCs. SteamOS is developed by Valve for the handheld console. These aren’t indie projects some hobbyists made.
For your programs, we now have flatpaks/snaps that make a program work even if it’s not developed specifically for your distribution. Valve developed Proton for its console, and it “translates” almost all games to Linux, including some games with anti-cheat. I have a library of 500+ games and they are all compatible. You can install any program with a click of a button, it’s just as easy as running an .exe file.
Also, if something does break, it is never impossible to fix it if you are willing to dig and tinker until you find it.
In Windows, there are things that can break that are not documented or accessible, so you literally can encounter things that cannot be fixed by the end user. That’s where the common saying “nuke & pave” got applied to Windows troubleshooting, since you often have to nuke Windows and pave over it with a reinstall to fix a problem.
e: ^^^ don’t downvote them -_-;;
Fair.
There are about 30 different ways to do any single thing and whatever way you choose is guaranteed to provoke 17 neckbeards into writing essays on why you’re wrong and, while they’re at it, you also picked the wrong distro.
On the other hand:
- the clocks just tell time
- your user directory isn’t stored in a data center 1500 miles away
- the update process understands the concept of consent, and;
- you can create a local user account during install without … whatever this is.
There are about 30 different ways to do any single thing and whatever way you choose is guaranteed to provoke 17 neckbeards into writing essays on why you’re wrong and, while they’re at it, you also picked the wrong distro.
My favorite one is
“Oh linux is easy these days, you don’t have to even open the terminal”
“Haha noob why did you install the flatpak version, never do that, always install everything as .debs through terminal”You can just click on debs in your file manager, no different from an exe in that aspect… but sure, i guess you could run an exe via cmd if you really wanted to
Haha oh yes, it’s just whenever I search for some solutions it feels like I end up finding at least one reply with the instructions to use terminal only for installing
As someone who isn’t scared of the terminal, I don’t get the fear really. What’s the difference from opening a store app or web browser and searching for an application and asking your package manager to search for an application? Either way, you just type the name and it gives you results. I guess the package manager you at least know it’s from a mostly trusted source (usually, unless you do something to allow exceptions), while a web search isn’t always.
Why you find terminal instructions online is because it works for every system though. It doesn’t matter what distro you have, or what packages; they all have a terminal and the same base. This isn’t true for package manager instructions though, because there are several, and different distros provide different ones.
I’d imagine the fear is just because a lot of people are not tech savvy at all and tend to be scared of new things, “googling” and pushing colorful buttons is something most people are used to, but writing phrases you don’t fully understand into a mysterious text box is not. Though personally I have no fear towards terminal either, so maybe I’m wrong with that analysis
I’m old, and can’t be fucked learning a whole new system. I just want to browse the internet and play my games. The biggest barrier is getting my simracing gear and modded Assetto Corsa working on it.
Yeah, I completely understand. I bounced off Linux desktop several times and I’m a sysadmin.
It’s only the last few years where there have been rapid and significant improvements to get gaming so it “just works*” and both of the popular desktop environments, KDE (Windows-like) and gnome (Mac-like) have had a heavy focus on fixing all of the little fiddly annoyances that turned people off.
It’s not perfect and it can be annoying, but its dramatically better than it was 5 years ago while Windows keeps moving in the opposite direction.
I’m not trying to sell you on it really, Linus doesn’t pay me commissions. Windows isn’t THAT bad and learning a new OS is a big ask.
I’ve just been impressed by the state of things and enjoy yapping about it.
Obligatory “Gnome is NOT Mac-like” comment.
The Windows people think Gnome is Mac-like. Hah, no it’s not! Gnome is its own weird thing.
KDE can actually get a lot closer to Mac than Gnome can, if you add a top menu bar, rearrange some stuff, and move the titlebar buttons around.
(We came from Mac land originally, and that’s how we have our KDE set up. Mostly.)
– Frost
For most popular distros most stuff works out of the gate. It’s been a long time since I’ve had to wrestle with anything vexing.
The big one I see across most distros is: Pipewire needs better default minimum quants.
I see so many complaints about crackling audio and it’s almost always that pipewire defaults to using a tiny buffer for lower latency and system load (like gaming) can cause the buffers to empty resulting in crackling.
If this happens, you can fix it temporarily (it’ll last until you reboot):
pw-metadata -n settings 0 clock force-quantum 256Increase the 256 to 512 or higher until the crackling goes away (it doesn’t need to be a power of two, any integer will work). It’ll take effect immediately you don’t need to restart pipewire.
That depends on the distro, just choose one that’s beginner-friendly or “works out of the box”
LMDE, Zorin, etc.
Linux Mint is also great for new users.
LMDE = Linux Mint Debian Edition.
That’s LMDE, except LMDE uses Debian for upstream instead of Ubuntu. It’s the same developers though.
OK, so tell me how to get Assetto Corsa Content Manager, Custom Shaders Patch and all the other mods I have installed, Quest 2 VR and Moza Pit House working in Linux, because that’s the thing keeping me from switching. Would WINE work well enough for that?
Ok, my coffee fueled morning research:
Essentially, if you can install the game with Steam it works out of the box. According to Protondb (https://www.protondb.com/app/244210) the game has a Gold rating which means it works without any major flaws.
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There’s a guide to get Assetto Corsa setup: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2828364666
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If you don’t want to fuss with all of this manually, someone has created a script to do most of the work here: https://github.com/sihawido/assettocorsa-linux-setup
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As far as mods, I’d need to know which other mods you use to see if there are any specific instructions/issues.
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List of force feedback steering wheels, the driver needed to use them and a rating of how well they work with Linux. It looks like all Moza products have a Platinum rating so they work flawlessly. https://github.com/JacKeTUs/linux-steering-wheels
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Moza Pit House doesn’t work, but someone has created a flatpak native Linux version: https://flathub.org/en/apps/io.github.lawstorant.boxflat
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Here’s a compilation of links for software to get various pieces of simracing gear working: https://github.com/LukasLichten/awesome-linux-simracing
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Steam VR via Quest 2 using ALVR: https://pawamoy.github.io/posts/steam-linux-alvr-quest2/
Legend! I’m saving this post for when I do finally get the motivation to switch.
The main mods I’m concerned about are Custom Shaders Patch and Pure, but I believe the devs are working on Linux versions of those as well.
If you do and run into any trouble, feel free to DM me. :)
Thanks. I will say, though, that still seems pretty lengthy and complicated to get working. ;) But I guess I only have to do it once.
Most of the other mods are simply cars and tracks, which I guess are just drag and drop like in Windows. The only other one that might be an issue is the 2Real traffic/pedestrian mods.
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I’ll legit look into this tomorrow. e: Done - https://lemmy.world/post/46306690/23526313
The answer is generally: Proton/Steam. There was a patch to WINE or Proton recently that made it much easier to use mods that require custom DLLs.
The core weird trick is understanding that there’s a directory for your game (once installed/setup in Proton) that’s essentially the C: drive. As far as your game is concerned, it’s running on Windows where it is the only non-system software installed.
So, any mods that are just scripts/plugins where you copy them into a folder then launch the game (anything without DLL, basically), you install the same way… But you use the directory, that contains the “C drive” for that specific game.
It sound complicated but once you do it once or twice it’ll feel familiar. You just now have a unique “C drive” directory for each game.
You can install/run multiple applications in the same bottle (basically what WINE calls the fake-c-drive-using windows environment). For example, when I play PoE2, I use a third party program to make trading easier. I just run that program inside the same bottle as the game and they think they’re both running on the same computer.
For basic things like installing and playing games on Steam it’s all handled automatically. You click the install button and then click the play button. Installing workshop mods is also exactly like in Windows. Steam just knows how to use WINE/Proton.
That approach doesn’t work for any game, tho. For example, I can’t get mods working for World of Tanks. If I move the mid files in the directory where they normally would be under Windows, WoT crashes when I start it.
For WOT/WOWS you should be ablt to run Aslains modpack installer inside of the wine prefix with protontricks: https://github.com/Matoking/protontricks
For the method that you’re using, you could enable proton logging and that would let you see the traceback of the crash. It may give you a bit more information about what it was trying to do when it crashed.
Not true. Standard Debian install on Thinkpad takes 15 Minutes. I don’t need more words.
I’m not worried about the install of the OS itself. That seems pretty straighforward.
How long can a discussion be about pressing a button to install a thing from the package manager, then launch said thing?
Jesus Christ. First they fucked over notepad and introduced dozens of application breaking new bugs and broke decades of existing functionality, now they’re thinking about breaking the damn clock ?
Wait, no, they’ve already broken the clock in windows 11 because it no longer shows seconds, and doesn’t respond to clicks on non primary displays.
I guess they decided it wasn’t broken enough.
I’m getting so sick of their shit, and my employer locks down my laptop so tightly that I can’t run any 3rd party software too, so I can’t even install my own clock application.
Oh you want to see a fun win11ism? Use the calculator to determine the number of days between 2 dates.
Win 10: 2 fields you type in
Win 11: no typing is possible. You must click and scroll through a calendar ui for each date.
that is pretty terrible,
I didn’t even know the calculator could do that.
It borderline can’t now
It’s wild to me that clocks stopped responding on non-primary windows. The first time I noticed that I thought it was broken- and I was right, because there’s zero rhyme or reason for removing that functionality.
I don’t think they removed it, as such, it’s more that they rewrote the clock from scratch and didn’t know the old clock did that, and didn’t care to find out.
Similar to how task manager used to suppress the refresh if shift was being held down and that no longer works in Windows 11 because they rewrote it and never looked at Dave’s original code.
I still can’t believe how slow the task manager is in windows 11, how do you ever release a task manager that is slower than before? Disgraceful developers and managers over there now
Is it your laptop, or theirs?
It’s obviously their laptop… what’s your point ?
If they’ve ceded that much control, there aren’t many ways it’s still their hardware left.
I’m not following you… Like most corporates, they’ve locked it down, in this case with BeyondTrust, so that it’s not even possible to run unapproved executables without a dialog box popping up demanding an explanation, which then creates a ticket with security, who casually deny it a few days later.
But the fact that I can’t personally run alternatives on that laptop doesn’t change the fact that Microsoft have pushed out a lot of poorly tested and bug ridden replacements for software that has worked perfectly fine until now.
I don’t know how to be clearer, that’s not your computer at that point. I would absolutely require my employer to provide their own device to implement this security solution.
We’ve been trained to see computing as a nonpolitical thing, but computation in “the information age” is every bit as political as iron was in the iron age, or, I dunno, sails in the age of sail. Stupid examples, I should be asleep right now. The point is that we should view news about all technology through a political lens.
I can’t do smart examples at half past three, so here’s this. If you were a medieval serf and the king had assumed direct mind control over your horse, you would have no difficulty seeing how that was an offense against the social contract and a clear signal that the divine right of kings was flawed. “My horse has been mind-controlled by the court sorcerer, now he won’t breed with the family mare… and yesterday I swear I saw him whispering to a guard!”
You’d just about tolerate that weird shit from a horse the king gifted you, but not your own. But this isn’t the age of horse. Good night!
I think that there was a mix-up of what “their” was referring to in this line of conversation. It seems to me like you two are saying the same thing otherwise.
OC initially referred to it as “my laptop,” you’re correct about that, but that’s kind of a colloquialism - or has been everywhere I work. “My system” just refers to the hardware into which you login, assuming they provide you with such. I refer to the laptop my employer provided as “my laptop” or “my work laptop” if there’s a need to disambiguate, but I’m under no illusions regarding what would happen to the hardware if I left the company.
Also, though my work laptop isn’t locked down like that person’s is, I’m not going to install anything not work related or login to any personal accounts. After all, I agree with you: it’s the employer’s laptop provided to allow me to advance their interests.
I remain very confused about the point you’re trying to make ?
Are you trying to say that if I don’t personally own the laptop that I use for work, then I have no right to complain about its shortcomings ?
I think old mate is confused about you saying “my laptop” when it’s your laptop provided by your workplace. He’s then telling you it’s not your laptop if they control what you can download (which it isn’t yours, it’s the workplace) . I’ve got absolutely no idea how the fuck horses entered the equation.
I tried, I think I’m ready to drop it. Sorry about that.
Can’t they just make tabbed file explorer work properly instead?
What’s wrong with tabbed file explorer? I haven’t run into any issues yet
There’s no way to automatically open new folders in a tab. You can right click but in windows 11 it’s hidden in the more options menu by default. You can overcome some of this with regedit but I only use windows for work and naturally I’m locked out of that.
I have never been bothered by right clicking the folder then selecting new tab or new window if I don’t want to just enter the folder, but at the top of the window on the bar there are 3 dots. Click that icon and hit options it pops a settings window up and u can select if u want 2x or single click to perform action and if u want to just enter the folder or by default have it open in a new tab or window. If w11 did one thing well I thought it was the new file explorer lol. I haven’t done any regedits for these options but sucks to be locked out of that for many reasons!!
I know how to use windows and the setting you mention above is reset on startup (edit, probably because it’s a work computer). It also doesn’t solve the actual problem. Here’s a better description: https://superuser.com/questions/1766815/is-there-a-way-to-make-a-folder-open-in-a-new-tab-instead-a-new-window-in-window
And the solution is… It is not natively possible to make tabbed explorer work as it should.
There should at least be a shortcut for it.
