• fubarx@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Was doing enterprise IoT consulting a while back. Asked why they needed to collect all the data? Nobody could answer. Someone finally said, so we can analyze usage patterns. I asked, “OK, but why?” Finally, someone said: “So we know when and where to advertise our sales.”

    Also did automotive consulting work. Connected vehicles. Asked the same questions. I’m not too worried about my car collecting a lot of data. It’s so they can plan their next sales event.

    Not that it’s OK to violate privacy. Just saying, the reason may be way more banal than we think

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      Yeah that’s why they collect data, because it’s money. What they don’t talk about is that somewhere along the line they realize they got bunch of data that’d be very valuable to others too, so they’ll sell it. Also, they don’t really care if gov agencies come ask for it

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        The other thing they don’t realize is data is a liability. People are catching on to the danger of data and they be taking action, both with novel applications of existing laws, and new laws. Soldiers have already been targeted because of data, so the idea that they can dodge liability is unlikely. Some countries already have laws in place as well.

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      It’s so they can plan their next sales event.

      Sure, until one day it’s not.

      Of course, the evidence today, to me, already points to much worse going on.

      Their terms of service openly state that they resell it with no regard to who they sell to.

      Epstein’s files give us a detailed picture of how our worst parasites spend their free time and money.

      I get that, for some of us, that still isn’t a risk.

      But some of us would be better off realizing there’s more evidence for than against the possibility that detailed profiles about our kids are being bought and sold between kidnappers and rapists.

      (And to be clear, I also don’t think that age verification, verifying exactly which devices are used by kids - can help protect kids from online the kind of online threats who have billions of dollars, full time armed thugs, private jets, and private islands. If we get those threats under control, I’m willing to discuss revisiting some “don’t see boobies” filter settings, in the name of protecting children, lol.)