• mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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    17 minutes ago

    I was considering buying a switch 2 for a couple of the exclusives, despite my prior beliefs, but this confirms that I shouldn’t have even considered it

    fuck you Nintendo, stop disrespecting me as a customer

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    11 hours ago

    For everyone who thought eu legislation would force corporations make better stuff globally, that’s how much they care about you.

    And people still buying from nintendo is really disappointing

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      2 hours ago

      It does it’s just Nintendo going out of their way to be awkward even to their own detriment.

      Look at Apple, everyone gets USB-C iPhones now they could have made a USB-C version for the European market and a mag-safe port for other markets but that would have meant two different power boards and different body designs but each market which wasn’t worth it. Nintendo however have decided to actually put the cost into making two different body moulds and two different circuit boards one for non-replaceable batteries and one for replaceable batteries.

      Nintendo have been anti-consumer for a long time but I’m surprised that they’re willing to waste money on it.

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      I mean the main point right now is to make stuff better for ourselves but there are examples of others benefitting from our legislation like the case of usb-c. Individual governments also help, like germany spending money on linux development and adopting it on government system in certain states.

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      4 hours ago

      The other two markwts are too big to include and not profit from the resulting issues.
      You juat have to make it unprofitable enough for two models to coexist to make them just fold and only make one.

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      It’s only making it more expensive for themselves. They want to have two production lines for two separate models… Well that effects their profit margin.

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          Is it though or is this just them being spiteful?

          How often do the batteries in the non-user replaceable version fail, they can’t have the failure rate be too high or else word would get around. So they’re doing this against the cost of some theoretical future benefit may very well not come to pass. I suspect this decision hasn’t been properly costed out.

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        It’s quite obviously cheaper to not make it replaceable, otherwise they would do it globally. Companies are not that spiteful when it comes to money. The battery is probably already theoretically replaceable by repair shops with special tool or whatever, there was just an opening in the hull missing. So it’s likely just one or two pieces that have to be manufactured differently, the rest can stay the same.

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      Not just spite. It also proves they profit more from proprietary repairs than it costs to maintaining both production lines.

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      I have never and will never pay for a Nintendo product because of shit like this. Doesn’t mean you can’t play Nintendo games though 🏴‍☠️

      Fuck Nintendo.

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      It’s the Apple approach: Implement consumer-friendly policies only in regions that require it by law. Apple mostly do it with software though, for example only allowing third-party app stores in EU and Japan.

      Plenty of US companies do something similar with subscriptions too. California mandates that any subscription you create online must also be cancellable online, and so some companies (like New York Times, SiriusXM, gyms) only show their simple online cancelation flow to Californians. Everyone else must jump through hoops like use live chat, call them, cancel in person, etc.

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          It’s probably cheaper to do the right thing. It’d allow them to have a single product line, rather than two. However, it’d mean they can’t screw over customers and sell them replacements, so it’d cost them in additional sales.

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      The midlife revision will probably just have a user-replaceable battery for all regions to simplify things.

      Then again, it’s Nintendo.

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        Nintendo makes the first version of all of their products deliberately mid just so the second version can be considered to be an upgrade, when everybody else would just consider the second version to be what they should have made from the beginning.

        It’s like the OLED switch, why didn’t they just make the first version OLED? There hasn’t been a significant cost reduction in that area lately, so it’s not as if it’s suddenly cheaper to put one in.

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    13 hours ago

    Nintendo really dropping the ball at every opportunity. Life long Nintendo fan here and I’ll never buy anything from them ever again.

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      9 hours ago

      I love Nintendo. I’ve bought every single one of their consoles. I am skipping the Switch 2 though.

      I feel like giving someone a Switch 2 is a bit like a white elephant. I can’t say that I’m a fan of what’s happening lately. It’s a shame because the industry is where it is because of them. It’s a shame they can’t treat their customers a little better.

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    13 hours ago

    I used to be loyal to Nintendo

    No idea why anyone still supports them after the joycons were never really fixed on switch 1

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      13 hours ago

      The joycons are egregiously priced. Doing any sort of fix on them is a massive pain in the arse. I hadn’t used my Switch in a while, it was packed away in its (official) carrying case, inside a box that’s kept in a decent environment. The joysticks had melted.

      I bought replacement joysticks, with hall effect sensors, for €15. Two batteries for €10. Pain in the arse to replace, but it’s possible. The new joysticks even have exchangeable caps so if they melt again for some reason, you can just pop them off.

      Nintendo intentionally designs things to be shit, so you can buy new joycons at insane prices. It’s why they also offer them in limited collections and whatnot.

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        Honestly this only really started this with the Switch. Every Nintendo controller besides the N64’s have been pretty damn reliable and robustly built well. I never broke a Wiimote when I would drop them from time to time because of the motion controls.

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        If I ever broke the main controller on my Wii U (which Nintendo shut off online services for now) you needed to buy an entire new console

        Another factor though was that I don’t need to play yet another Mario sequel. As a character, he’s actually not that interesting (and a bit of a cuck if we’re being honest)

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          12 hours ago

          I’d also fuck Bowser rather than Mario so I get Peach.

          I only got the Switch because I was anticipating SMT:V, it getting an update and PC release a few years later came rather unexpected to me. Not really interested in ever buying a Nintendo console again.

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      Most of my DnD table is a die hard Nintendo Fan. They shit on palworld saying its copying pokemon, they buy every console and pokemon game, it’s kinda crazy to see. I feel like it’s half nostalgia and half some sort of parasocial relationship where they see Nintendo as a friend.

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    13 hours ago

    How to motivate right to repair advocacy in other regions in one easy step…

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      It’s because Nintendo executives don’t really understand the Western world.

      Apparently Nintendo of Europe and Nintendo of America are constantly at loggerheads with Nintendo of Japan over their various brain dead, ultimately self-defeating, schemes.

      For starters I cannot imagine that having two product lines with minor differences can be economically viable, and secondly what’s the point in pissing your customer base off? There is zero logic behind this decision.

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      16 hours ago

      The incentive to buy one comes from the expectation it‘ll be even more expensive this time next year. Not sure it‘s working, though.

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        Well if they had some games I was actually all that interested in it might be a compelling product. All it got is a Mario Kart game which looks ok but not enough for me to buy a console for it and another Zelda game.

        The big problem is that there isn’t a reason for me to buy a switch 2 over the original switch, and there isn’t a lot of reason me to buy a switch over a steam deck or another handheld. They’ve entered into a pretty saturated market with a niche product. Every other handheld can play wider selection of games.

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        And something tells me when prices fall again, Nintendo would just carry on and pocket the difference

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      15 hours ago

      If I ever do buy one, you can bet I’ll be specifically searching for one of those Euro-spec ones with replaceable batteries.

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        If you do, you may also need to get EU versions of the games… I don’t know if they’re still region locking them but at the very least used to be a common practice

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      They don’t need to drop prices though - they get plenty of sales without it.

      Also, all consumer electronics are going up in price due to the component (RAM, GPU, SSD) shortages, which are happening because the majority of new stock is being sold to AI companies.

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        • They don’t need to drop the price there are plenty of sales available

        • Everything is going up in price because of AI anyway

        So which one is it?