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Women should be alowed to stab men who dont respekt a no with a knife.
What’s really wild is just the wide range of threat levels one may encounter. Some of those guys seemed like they were just odd and pretty non-threatening, while others immediately go for physical contact even after being told “no”. A woman has no idea what to expect when a man approaches her; is he just going to say something weird and walk away to never be heard from again, or is he going to attack her if she rejects him? There’s a huge margin of danger for every encounter. And then guys who have never had to keep their guard up a day in their lives wonder why women on the street seem so cold to them.
I’m very much of the opinion that more women should carry.
You can tell that much of the userbase came from reddit when you look at this comment section and people’s down votes 😅
Lotta folks on this site need to unpack some things about how they see women. I see sexism on lemmy more often than any other form of bigotry or chauvinism
Jesus fucking Christ. Men we can do better, wtf.
It’s actually so bad… Also why do you still have 1 vote after my upvote? Are there salty men in here?
Assuming I’m not talking to the void, if you feel attacked by a critique of men in general then you remain a part of the problem. ALL men have to engage in self critique because ALL men (and people in general) have been socialized to think of women in harmful ways. It’s not a moral failing, but it is your responsibility to learn. Anything less is laziness.
This is Lemmy. Majority of users here are salty men.
Yup, I’m a trans woman and have dealt with this shit. I now hide under a giant hat, and try not to stand out too much.
Fuckin’ creeps, everywhere.
Why do you already have a downvote? Is that a common thing on lemmy, or is it just because anti-feminism is a core personality trait for so many men?
It’s actually quite upsetting. Good luck out there girlie.
Just a heads-up, regardless of the reason (might even have been accidental) it’s not a very healthy thing to be looking this deeply into upvotes or downvotes. Some twerps are always going to downvote the most agreeable statement, or upvote the most eggregious one. Trying to jump into conclusions about why that one person might have downvoted the post is a futile waste of time that might very well make you reach conclusions that are just not grounded in reality and further dwindle your faith in humanity for no reason at all…
God forbid trans women do verbs.
Given that they only have 2 downvotes, I’d say that’s just Lemmy being Lemmy. On other less confrontational topics, I usually will say some mundane comment, and still get like 1-3 downvotes. And it scales too. If you have 10 upvotes, you might get 1 downvote. But if you have 50 upvotes you might have 3 downvotes.
One time I just said “FUCK ICE!!!” and got over 100 upvotes, and 3 downvotes. So I wouldn’t take these downvotes too seriously. Some people just have no life.
It could be representative of the UI and accidental voting. I’ve accidentally up/down voted something before when I tried to “navigate back”. I’m sure there have been some I didn’t catch to that would make me feel horrible to know I responded to something so blatantly incorrectly.
*she
That’s only if you’re in the boys club.
Genuinely thank you for explaining. I felt like I was going crazy for a minute there.
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Wifey had to teach me that you either politely deny advances while trying your best not to bruise the male ego and hope for the best, or rudley deny advances and risk violence.
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“Had to teach” is crazy. If she’s a woman it is literally impossible for her not to be aware of her social position and what that means for interacting with men. All you’ve “taught” her is to internalize the idea that the actions of those men are her fault. I’m not saying this to shame you, it’s just that society has got us all fucked up on how we think about gender dynamics. It’s our responsibility to self-reflect on these things because we ALL do it. Not just you.
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Oh, sick. Thats my bad. These topics get some people, including me, a little on edge. You’re literally a woman, so you know the topic better than I do lol.
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It’s genuinely unacceptable that we force people to live in these ways. Having to present more masc or stop yourself from smiling at strangers. Not to mention the ways that men suffer (albeit a fraction of what women face) under the patriarchy as well. It’s in all of our best interests to change the way we think about gender. I’m sorry that you have to go through that :/
Yeah it’s such a burden on you when other men hit on your wife. Good thing you told her to stop.
Those men would do so whether your wife was smiling or not. You’ve successfully told her to dampen her own joy.
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Smiling or not smiling doesn’t stop unwanted advances. That was my point.
In my experience it does make a difference. I am in a similar position with my partner.
Smiling = men thinking you are up to talk or more 🤢
Men will also often tell women and girls to smile if they aren’t.
It doesn’t matter what women do, men will harass us regardless.
I was told to smile.
While I was wearing a face mask.
Even when it’s stupid they say it!!
(He realized after a second and fucking skedaddled at least)
Ah so you can have empathy for your fellow women here, but will turn around and support calling women “bitches” otherwise?
Yikes.
Yeah. That’s me. Got it in one. I’m a dense, complicated character.
I even upvoted you cause of how accurate you are.
What’s all this about?
Ran into this same user in another thread defending a man calling women “bitches”.
I found the contrast between their support here and their views there interesting.
Hello, I’m Tanis Nikana (she/her), I’m a photographer, a stand-up comic, a lesbian, and I try to do alright in the world.
This is who you’re talking to, trying to pick apart my views on the word “bitches,” which are complex and nuanced.
It’s nice to meet you!
Did I say something that was untrue?
I do find your defense of calling women “bitches” more interesting after seeing your comments in this thread.
Oh, I was just introducing myself. Now you know who I am! I’m bitches.
lol you’re clearly not just introducing yourself when you take such a defensive stance on my opinion that “bitch” is a slur that has a time and place.
That does sound curious. Makes me curious of the context as well. They sound pretty level headed from the comments here, so I’m hoping it’s a misunderstanding.
The context was it was a shitpost about a lesbian who’s never been kissed, and no one knew OP’s gender, so Velma was assuming that while trying to manufacture outrage on a shitpost.
Meanwhile Tanis was basically self-identifying as “bitches,” and Velma seemingly contradicted her own stance that it might be okay for women to “reclaim the slur” by shaming Tanis for being okay with using the term.
It was pretty convoluted, but ultimately there seemed to be no point and it gave the vibe that Velma was just looking for a moral pedestal to grandstand on…
Thanks for that seemingly objective explanation.
Overall the person seems level headed and sincere in her feminist beliefs so I’m gonna give them the benefit of the doubt that it was either a misunderstanding or a temporary lapse in judgement. I know I’ve been misunderstood before on here, and had temporary lapses in my own judgement.
Some people mean well but are very quick to jump to confrontational mode, and assume the worst interpretation in what everyone says. I know a person like that. It can be very exhausting talking with them because you have to watch your words all the time, even when we share the same value framework… They just want to crush every single grain of the patriarchy so badly, and I get it. But sometimes it can get in the way of just normal conversation and banter.
The context is that velma is a cantankerous (possibly troll) account.
It doesn’t seem like a troll account to me. Seems like she’s just a very vocal feminist, strongly opinionated, and admittedly a confrontational person. But level headed and classy, still. They seem to just absorb insults into some kind of void. Quite impressive, actually. I didn’t scroll very far into their comments, but a few pages gave me these impressions.
I got no issues, no qualms.
I think you’re right. About it not being a troll. The rest of your comment is very generous.
Just a crotchety, cantankerous woman with strong opinions about equality.
This made me very thankful to have the father I have. Every one of these asshole deserves to get hit by a fucking bus.
Normalize pepper spraying people for this shit
Except for the guy that looked like “please stop having your hair touch me, random disgusting stranger in public”
Oh, thank you. Can I embed videos directly into posts?
Just add rimgo (alternative imgur front end) link there https://rimgo.vern.cc/gallery/pov-youre-woman-kARPLqT?__goaway_challenge=resource-load&__goaway_id=8ed528ae92d7af79283c949c8bfc683b
I’ve just added the “copy link” (of video) URL like a picture and lemmy.zip proxied it like they usually do with pictures. Guess it depends on your server.
Sickkk, thanks for showing me this.
This just redirected me to this page about deformation monitoring???
A proxy bug?
I don’t want to react to any short form videos, let alone a compilation of them. They’re made to grab as much attention and invoke as much attention as possible from you.
Makes me want to throw up
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Is this the USA? What’s going on :O
It’s everywhere.
I’ve never witnessed this happening. I don’t mean it doesn’t happen, but I’ve never seen it in my travel. Is it a cultural thing in some areas? Off peak hours? It’s gross.
I’m assuming you’re a man? No shade, I am too. It’s something that is hard for us to notice until you look for it (or watch a clip compilation). Women experience it every day for their whole lives, so they sense these things naturally. The sad thing is, it’s less that they have to “look for it” like us and more that every social interaction with men is marked by these gross dynamics.
In essence, this video is composed of (not-so) extreme examples of a very mundane social phenomenon.
Thank you for posting this and for your comments. It’s a refreshing take on this site.
Aww, thanks! That’s really encouraging. It’s kind of an obligation considering the state of things. I’m glad it’s appreciated by others.
Man here, also appreciate it. We need to set good examples and show our fellow men what isn’t acceptable.
<3
Also a man 🖐️ also never seen this happening IRL 🖐️ Also on board with the reason probably being that I don’t look for it, I’m not on the receiving end, etc etc. Also probably because I don’t get out much, and when I do I focus on my wife and/or kids, depending who I’m out with.
I have also heard that basically all women experience creeps like this at least once in their lives, if not regularly.
But is it really true that “women experience it every day for their whole lives”? I find it hard to believe, even in a big city. 🤯
It happens every day, though maybe not every day to the same woman.
When I lived in a bigger city, I would get comments almost every time I commuted, which was daily. “You’d look prettier if you smiled” was a common phrase thrown out.
My god. First of all, sorry on behalf of those men, although not to help those men say sorry, but for your sake.
Secondly, wtf. W. T. F.
Is that your job, to look prettier on your commute? Like, what? Gosh. This is probably small potatoes to you by now but it’s rage fuel for me. The gall that people have to think they’re entitled to leave an open opinion on what you “should do” in order to please them. Disgusting.
It’s true
Aside from being super awful, how can that possibly actually be a known fact though?
Transition and try it. Or believe women.
This question isn’t about trusting the word of women. I explained it in another comment. It’s just, how can we know this happens every day of every woman’s life if we didn’t have every woman’s account at the end of their life? It seems practically impossible to be able to logically truthfully make this claim. 😅
My b. No it doesn’t happen every day. Some days we don’t go out. Some days we manage to avoid most men.
Because women say it is true and they’re the ones experiencing it?
I’m sorry if I’m being unclear. This isn’t about trust or validity of a woman’s word. It’s just, how can we possibly know if this happens to every woman every day for their entire lives if we haven’t asked every woman or every woman said it is so? I know many women for whom this isn’t true, e.g. And that’s just in my personal circle of friends. Imagine how many others there are to deny the claim.
But of course, basically all of them have experienced it at some point in their lives, this is definitely the case, as my female friends tend to open up about those things to me for some reason (which I appreciate).
I guess I’m saying my question isn’t really about women and this issue per se, but the fact that we can’t know if something happens to every single person unless we communicated with them all. Logically, I mean.
This isn’t really important, as a disclaimer. It’s just my OCD kicking in. 🖐️😅 The important bit is that it happens to basically every woman at some point, and that alone is not okay.
It happens all the time. It happens to women pretty much everywhere.
By total chance, I had retold a story about a man pinning me between him and the window seat on a bus just the other day.
I’ve seen it and reacted before. But these people either pick moments when they think no one is paying attention or when no one is around.
I have, multiple times. It’s not something that happens in any particular place more than others. It’s wildly uncomfortable, and people, especially men are even more wildly dismissive of these events.
I’ve seen it in Europe and the US
Try this in latam and you will get your ass kicked
I can’t see the video for some reason…
What kind of error are you getting?
Nvm figured out. For some reason boost wasn’t showing the imgur clip. I switched to Voyager and I can see the link.
Ah, cool. Happy Voyaging!
Someone reposted it as a comment if that helps. I also stole it from the TikTok cringe subreddit if you’d like to look for it there.
