Not really. I mean, other than the headline, what consequences are stemming from this?
People here seem to think a good burn is going to stop these monsters.
I mean we can all say we hate AI but while OpenAI continues to have a billion active monthly users, they will never stop
BTW I got that number from an article today saying OpenAI was “in trouble” because they are DOWN to that number as apparently Gemini is stealing all the users…
No huge consequences, you’re right. Probably annoyed the CEO. But 200 people degoogling? Even people running metrics every day at Google wouldn’t notice. It would be great if everyone degoogled, but until that trend starts getting much more traction than it has now it will have no measurable impact, and making more people think about how Google is evil is the only way to increase that traction.
I mean, I’ll throw my experience in: I broke up with G for everything except YouTube and the Google Store, to finance pixel devices. That was a decade ago, and I have made no active attempts to get others to do the same, yet about half my friend circle have expressed interest in following me, with a couple taking steps on their own. One is actively researching alternative roms and used pixel phones, in the last week. Again, I’ve made no effort to push them - just mentioning it when it comes up in conversation.
Imagine 200 people doing that, and making the tiniest effort to actively educate others. Domimo effect. Just look at what is happening right now with Windows v Linux. It only takes a few to get the ball rolling on meaningful change.
I imagine having a few billion dollars as your net worth raises your threshold to being annoyed by this kind of stuff a bit. Hopefully it did get the attention of whomever thought it was a good idea to invite an evil corporate overlord to an academic graduation though.
Well that was not my point… my point is that if a significant number of the people that allegedly hate AI/Google/BigCorpo were to actively get rid of their products, there would be an impact.
You are right that 200 is nothing but the real problem, IMO, is that people LOVE the show but not the action. I read hundreds of posts everywhere about how we must fight yet nobody seems to want to get off their chairs
I don’t, which is why I posted my comment as a question.
I can tell you I doubt it since I lost track of how many people (here for example) complain bitterly about the big tech companies and still hold active accounts in all of them seemingly unable to stop giving those companies “they hate” all the power they want
The people whom you’re posing the question to (other Lemmy users) aren’t in any position to answer the question, and you (should) know that. Therefore, your “question” wasn’t asked in good faith and was instead merely a rhetorical tool used to “present false or distorted claims by framing them as questions.”
Yes, this tactic is often used by conspiracy theorists, but they don’t have a monopoly on it, as you so clearly demonstrated.
The people whom you’re posing the question to (other Lemmy users) aren’t in any position to answer the question, and you (should) know that. Therefore, your “question” wasn’t asked in good faith and was instead merely a rhetorical tool used to “present false or distorted claims by framing them as questions.”
Since you cannot possibly know what is going on in my head, you are basically just projecting your own intentions here
Same reason I post anything here, to get some feedback.
I have no proof and zero reason to think the people that reply to my woodworking questions know more than I do, but that is the leap of faith we all do in social media, no?
So far, one person replied to me with some good points, others just didn’t like my post and threw a tantrum. I try to ignore the tantrums and learn from the good posts to the best of my abilities.
yes but will any of them take a actual step in the right direction like degoogling and/or closing their Meta or Xitter accounts?
They literally walked out of their Standford graduation. I’m sure they have the willpower to stop using those platforms.
Why do you feel the need to be smug toward people that obviously share the same viewpoint as you?
They walked out of an extremely boring ceremony. That’s nothing.
Even if they didn’t, this was inestimably more impactful than a couple hundred people degoogling.
Not really. I mean, other than the headline, what consequences are stemming from this?
People here seem to think a good burn is going to stop these monsters.
I mean we can all say we hate AI but while OpenAI continues to have a billion active monthly users, they will never stop
BTW I got that number from an article today saying OpenAI was “in trouble” because they are DOWN to that number as apparently Gemini is stealing all the users…
No huge consequences, you’re right. Probably annoyed the CEO. But 200 people degoogling? Even people running metrics every day at Google wouldn’t notice. It would be great if everyone degoogled, but until that trend starts getting much more traction than it has now it will have no measurable impact, and making more people think about how Google is evil is the only way to increase that traction.
I mean, I’ll throw my experience in: I broke up with G for everything except YouTube and the Google Store, to finance pixel devices. That was a decade ago, and I have made no active attempts to get others to do the same, yet about half my friend circle have expressed interest in following me, with a couple taking steps on their own. One is actively researching alternative roms and used pixel phones, in the last week. Again, I’ve made no effort to push them - just mentioning it when it comes up in conversation.
Imagine 200 people doing that, and making the tiniest effort to actively educate others. Domimo effect. Just look at what is happening right now with Windows v Linux. It only takes a few to get the ball rolling on meaningful change.
I imagine having a few billion dollars as your net worth raises your threshold to being annoyed by this kind of stuff a bit. Hopefully it did get the attention of whomever thought it was a good idea to invite an evil corporate overlord to an academic graduation though.
Well that was not my point… my point is that if a significant number of the people that allegedly hate AI/Google/BigCorpo were to actively get rid of their products, there would be an impact.
You are right that 200 is nothing but the real problem, IMO, is that people LOVE the show but not the action. I read hundreds of posts everywhere about how we must fight yet nobody seems to want to get off their chairs
THEY LITERALLY TOOK ACTION. THAT’S WHY THERE’S A STORY.
These people literally got off their chairs during their college graduation from a prestigious university to protest the shit Google is doing!
Each person who did that made a bigger impact, and probably a bigger sacrifice, than a person who degoogled. That was my point.
Ultimately we need people to degoogle, but until way more people pay attention to why they should, it will remain a niche thing.
Fair point… maybe I am just too frustrated to see the small gains
How do you know they haven’t already?
I don’t, which is why I posted my comment as a question.
I can tell you I doubt it since I lost track of how many people (here for example) complain bitterly about the big tech companies and still hold active accounts in all of them seemingly unable to stop giving those companies “they hate” all the power they want
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions
Sometimes a question is just a question… not a conspiracy theory
The people whom you’re posing the question to (other Lemmy users) aren’t in any position to answer the question, and you (should) know that. Therefore, your “question” wasn’t asked in good faith and was instead merely a rhetorical tool used to “present false or distorted claims by framing them as questions.”
Yes, this tactic is often used by conspiracy theorists, but they don’t have a monopoly on it, as you so clearly demonstrated.
Since you cannot possibly know what is going on in my head, you are basically just projecting your own intentions here
Oh my, the hypocrisy that dwells in that comment. You’re a special kind of animal.
Well, it’s highly unlikely that any of them are here, so I don’t know why you’re asking us then.
Same reason I post anything here, to get some feedback.
I have no proof and zero reason to think the people that reply to my woodworking questions know more than I do, but that is the leap of faith we all do in social media, no?
So far, one person replied to me with some good points, others just didn’t like my post and threw a tantrum. I try to ignore the tantrums and learn from the good posts to the best of my abilities.