And then some of those that walked out will work for Google also due to job market shit fuckery. What a time to be alive
New grads can get jobs?
I’ve seen it happen! She… lives in Canada, you wouldn’t know her
Not at Google, Amazon, or Meta. Some companies are still hiring new grads to make entry level engineers into their future senior engineers, but it’s usually older companies.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ibm-expands-entry-level-hiring-165921396.html
Well if they have degrees in software engineering, certainly.
Where have you been the last few years lol, new CS grads aren’t exactly doing well at the moment.
They’re still doing better than a lot of fields. I mean when you factor in compensation it’s still one of the best fields to be in. Compare to a teacher, where you’ll need a master’s degree in most states and then you can expect a salary around 40k. Whereas with software, when you do find a job it’s not unusual to start over 100k. But if you were willing to work for half that, I bet you’d find something quick.
They aren’t paying 100k for some fresh grad they need to train. They will pay them to train their AI models at the lowest possible price point though.
Dozens
the local news outlet SFGate estimated it was as many as 200
No mention of how many people are graduating
Reee it’s difficult to estimate how big of a deal this was if the total number of participants isn’t mentioned.
On wiki it says there are about 1700 undergrads per class, so if it’s that plus some grad students at graduation, 200 walking out could be maybe a tenth of the attendees. Sounds pretty noticeable.
Very rare for the ceremony to be the entire graduating class. Its usually broken down by school.
200 is over sixteen dozens
That’s almost dozens of dozens.
It’s more than one and one third dozen dozens.
It’s about a bakers bakers dozen bakers bakers dozens.
Also known as a dirty dozen
1.38̄*dozen^2
This Stanford math is over my head.
What’s that in Baker’s dozens?
How much is that in his majesty’s imperial units?
2 hectopeople or 1.6 decadozen
That’s almost one full stoneperson!
There’s a video floating around.
1700 students graduating, little shock one may have had a cell phone
I guess that’s kind of like dozens…
Their ego is disgusting, every time they open their mouths they are met with disdain and they still don’t get it.
Because this diverges from their day to day and how everyone else treats them. “Surely these students are the ones that are wrong”.
They are probably aware but want to campaign in an effort to change public perception of AI. It will provide less resistance and more opportunities for their company as this gets forced through.
Also, USA lives in a world where someone’s word holds no accountability. All companies/media needs to do is keep pushing how great AI is and people will start to believe it. Facts to support their opinions aren’t necessary. The blowback seen is probably from the minority of people who care about fact checking and accountability.
They don’t need to. They’re still making more each year than you or I will make in our entire lives.
They make more than we’ll make in our lives before lunch. Every day.
His current pay package is about $233m/yr. That’s about $112k/day. I think your math might be off. Even if you make $7.25/hr, you’ll make $112k in just over eight years. Still an absurd disparity, but not as far as you say.
BLS lists the median annual salary as $62k. So, he does make more money in a half day than the majority of Americans make in a year. There’s no way any one person deserves that much money.
sigh
*each month.
Poor people who act like that tend to suffer social consequences. Like getting their asses kicked.
That sort of thing doesn’t stop poor people from saying shit like that, but it does teach them to be careful about it. Some of them.
Pichai […]
“It is the last two letters of my last name, after all.”So, abbreviations start from the rear end now?
Sundar PitchAI
That or he’s, accidentally or otherwise, saying AI is full of shit
Ah, yes, that’s probably it: his rear end is full of shit.
Stanford being bad is not new. Better late than never I guess.
Then they used their google phone outside to use a google platform to send their meme about it and then laughed at friends writing them on gmail accounts.
They’re in the States and have enough money to go to a major school, they probably have iphones
Because there is only two options.
If they’re young enough to be in college, they were the other kind of phones.
yes but will any of them take a actual step in the right direction like degoogling and/or closing their Meta or Xitter accounts?
They literally walked out of their Standford graduation. I’m sure they have the willpower to stop using those platforms.
Why do you feel the need to be smug toward people that obviously share the same viewpoint as you?
They walked out of an extremely boring ceremony. That’s nothing.
Even if they didn’t, this was inestimably more impactful than a couple hundred people degoogling.
Not really. I mean, other than the headline, what consequences are stemming from this?
People here seem to think a good burn is going to stop these monsters.
I mean we can all say we hate AI but while OpenAI continues to have a billion active monthly users, they will never stop
BTW I got that number from an article today saying OpenAI was “in trouble” because they are DOWN to that number as apparently Gemini is stealing all the users…
No huge consequences, you’re right. Probably annoyed the CEO. But 200 people degoogling? Even people running metrics every day at Google wouldn’t notice. It would be great if everyone degoogled, but until that trend starts getting much more traction than it has now it will have no measurable impact, and making more people think about how Google is evil is the only way to increase that traction.
I mean, I’ll throw my experience in: I broke up with G for everything except YouTube and the Google Store, to finance pixel devices. That was a decade ago, and I have made no active attempts to get others to do the same, yet about half my friend circle have expressed interest in following me, with a couple taking steps on their own. One is actively researching alternative roms and used pixel phones, in the last week. Again, I’ve made no effort to push them - just mentioning it when it comes up in conversation.
Imagine 200 people doing that, and making the tiniest effort to actively educate others. Domimo effect. Just look at what is happening right now with Windows v Linux. It only takes a few to get the ball rolling on meaningful change.
I imagine having a few billion dollars as your net worth raises your threshold to being annoyed by this kind of stuff a bit. Hopefully it did get the attention of whomever thought it was a good idea to invite an evil corporate overlord to an academic graduation though.
But 200 people degoogling?
Well that was not my point… my point is that if a significant number of the people that allegedly hate AI/Google/BigCorpo were to actively get rid of their products, there would be an impact.
You are right that 200 is nothing but the real problem, IMO, is that people LOVE the show but not the action. I read hundreds of posts everywhere about how we must fight yet nobody seems to want to get off their chairs
THEY LITERALLY TOOK ACTION. THAT’S WHY THERE’S A STORY.
These people literally got off their chairs during their college graduation from a prestigious university to protest the shit Google is doing!
Each person who did that made a bigger impact, and probably a bigger sacrifice, than a person who degoogled. That was my point.
Ultimately we need people to degoogle, but until way more people pay attention to why they should, it will remain a niche thing.
Fair point… maybe I am just too frustrated to see the small gains
How do you know they haven’t already?
I don’t, which is why I posted my comment as a question.
I can tell you I doubt it since I lost track of how many people (here for example) complain bitterly about the big tech companies and still hold active accounts in all of them seemingly unable to stop giving those companies “they hate” all the power they want
I don’t, which is why I posted my comment as a question.
Sometimes a question is just a question… not a conspiracy theory
The people whom you’re posing the question to (other Lemmy users) aren’t in any position to answer the question, and you (should) know that. Therefore, your “question” wasn’t asked in good faith and was instead merely a rhetorical tool used to “present false or distorted claims by framing them as questions.”
Yes, this tactic is often used by conspiracy theorists, but they don’t have a monopoly on it, as you so clearly demonstrated.
The people whom you’re posing the question to (other Lemmy users) aren’t in any position to answer the question, and you (should) know that. Therefore, your “question” wasn’t asked in good faith and was instead merely a rhetorical tool used to “present false or distorted claims by framing them as questions.”
Since you cannot possibly know what is going on in my head, you are basically just projecting your own intentions here
Oh my, the hypocrisy that dwells in that comment. You’re a special kind of animal.
Well, it’s highly unlikely that any of them are here, so I don’t know why you’re asking us then.
Same reason I post anything here, to get some feedback.
I have no proof and zero reason to think the people that reply to my woodworking questions know more than I do, but that is the leap of faith we all do in social media, no?
So far, one person replied to me with some good points, others just didn’t like my post and threw a tantrum. I try to ignore the tantrums and learn from the good posts to the best of my abilities.
