• TIEPilot@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    tried to ban someone with a table saw from building a birdhouse.

    Thats a perfectly succinct analogy.

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      3 days ago

      Pretty sure you could make a gun too, which is the point of this 3D printer thing

      And like what about other CNC machines?

      I like that California is on the frontier of many tech laws, but this and the age thing are particularly dumb lately

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        3 days ago

        I made an AR15 with a hobby drill press from Lowes at work. Give me a hunk of metal, a micrometer and a file and I can make you a gun.

        Or worse.

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          And that is illegal, as it should be. The efficacy of a law has nothing to do with whether it’s moral.

          It’s like saying “we don’t have the manpower to police murder effectively, so we are gonna legalize murder”. It’s a fundamental misunderstanding of what the law is fucking for.

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              Are the laws sound and moral? That’s the only important metric, it doesn’t matter how many laws you have. It’s not like you go, oh shit, we have to keep it under a hundred thousand so now we can’t make new laws around AI data centers because that’s just too many!

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                14 hours ago

                lol you again, who decides whats “moral”?

                And WTF are you bringing data centers into a post about 3D printing and California’s draconian laws?

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          Neat, I would’ve assumed you’d need a mill or a lathe, not just a drill press. Kinda want to know how to do it myself, since I own the former but not either of the latter.

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            It won’t be accurate or be a long baller w/o a lathe to make a rifled barrel. Not that you couldn’t mke a barrel with hand tools, it just would be very difficult.

            And like others have said, only the lower receiver is the controlled item. You goto Brownels and can buy 98% of an AR w/o a background check.

          • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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            The upper reciever is the load bearing part on an Armalite, but it’s also not the regulated part. The lower receiver is, and all you need for that is a box that holds the trigger components in vaguely the right place, a hole that lines up the magazine, a hole to stick the buffer tube into at the back, and some way to nail the upper receiver to it.

            You could carve an AR lower out of wood if you were dedicated enough.

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                2 days ago

                If you’re near me I’ll loan you the gig, the end mills,and support to make an AR lower in about 2 hours.

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                  2 days ago

                  Please explain how I can “do literally anything productive with my life” when I’m murdered by MAGA fascists because I had no means to defend myself.

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        3 days ago

        Nobody tell California about a nail combined with certain diameters of pipe, because guess what, those can become guns too.

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        If I’m not mistaken, this DOES cover ALL manufacturing devices, and if it doesn’t, it will in the future

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        Yeah I’ve lived in CA for about 10 years now and have loved it, but the new laws they are passing are making it extremely likely that I’ll be moving soon. Especially with tje fact that we are either getting either Becerra who’s in Big AI and Big Oils pocket.