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Why does this have a “a glass of wine a day is healthy” vibe?
Like, don’t get me wrong, I’m not against people drinking coffee (who am I to criticize, I enjoy my alcohol), it just sounds like one of these studies that is made to counteract someone’s guilty conscience.

Omg, I saw that episode when it was first broadcast. My buddy and I laughed so goddamned hard at that scene. Upvote for you!
Was surprised this wasn’t on shitposts 🤔
Give it twenty minutes
Tldr the author of this article isn’t drawing a distinction between caffeine and coffee, even though she should be, and the data is less cut and dry than the headline suggests.
Most adults can safely consume up to 400 mg of caffeine each day—the amount found in up to five eight-ounce cups of coffee—and doing so may have cardiovascular benefits, according to a July 20 American Heart Association (AHA) statement published in Circulation.
Here’s the abstract for what’s being cited (emphasis mine):
Caffeine is one of the most commonly consumed drugs in the world. It is found in various naturally occurring substances and can be ingested in a synthetically derived pure form. The majority of human subject–based research is observational and has focused on beverages and foods that contain caffeine. The relationships between caffeine and cardiovascular risk factors and diseases are complex, exhibiting heterogeneity depending on the nature of the caffeine consumed and individual-level propensities. Acute versus chronic caffeine-associated cardiovascular effects are often different. Most studies suggest an inverse J-shaped relationship between consumption of naturally occurring caffeinated products and blood pressure. Data on relationships between caffeine and diabetes are not consistent, but habitual coffee consumption has been associated with a lower risk of incident type 2 diabetes. Whereas no clear relationship between caffeine and blood lipids is evident, unfiltered coffee raises low-density lipoprotein cholesterol. Caffeine, studied primarily in the context of coffee, has been shown either to have no relationship or to be associated with a lower risk of coronary artery disease and heart failure. Randomized controlled trial data among regular caffeinated coffee drinkers showed that caffeinated coffee decreases the risk of atrial fibrillation occurrence but increases the frequency of premature ventricular contractions. Data are fairly consistent that moderate caffeine consumption, again studied primarily in the setting of coffee consumption, was associated with a lower risk of stroke. Data on high doses of caffeine such as that found in energy drinks are limited and generally suggest cardiovascular harm.
Thank you!!
You should absolutely send the author an email.
Amy Roeder - Senior Writer, Office of Communications
I routinely drink that much, but it’s decaf.
“The authors noted that coffee is the most-studied source of caffeine, and the observed cardiovascular benefits may be due to other compounds in coffee.”
Frustrating that they never seem to do the work to tease out the difference. Fucking seems like they’d want to know whether it was some other compound or the caffeine. I suppose they get paid the same without the extra work so they don’t bother.
They could have done it in this study by adding a third cohort that got caffeine but not coffee.
I suppose they get paid the same without the extra work so they don’t bother
a more cynical person might wonder if this is one of those studies paid for by “the industry” and that industry might prefer people drink the addictive variety.
Whenever I see a article about ‘cups’ of coffee, I assume it’s just an observation study thing where large groups of people get surveys on their habits and their regular checkups are more thorough and available to the researchers. So the researchers can only tease out so much info without actually running an experiment with controls, like how big a cup is.
I’m already 10 years ahead on this. I’m gonna outlive you all
Good luck with that. I want the opposite of immortality and a long life.
In this world? The jokes on you!
Funnily enough I was just considering whether my 3rd cup of the day was a good idea or not
Quaff five cups of coffe a day, noted.
Yayyyy :3





