There’s a technical reason they do this that has been pointed out elsewhere but it has the added benefit of filtering out people who believe they are above the process. Most jobs have processes (safety processes, legal processes, etc.). You can avoid people who aren’t ready to accept they may be exceptional, but are applying for a position that does not require them to be.
That’s a very pro-company spin on it. But on the other hand it definitely filters for people who don’t mind being downright humiliated by a job that doesn’t respect their time or puts effort into finding employees. This pattern of reentering your resume data is pretty brand new, and justifying it from the companies side is pretty post-hoc when it’s really just offloading labor the company used to do to the unpaid job applicant who has to do this 20 times in a row.
I have filled out these forms, and I have abandoned applications.
If I am being paid to follow process, that’s one thing. If I’m being forced to jump through hoops for free on my own time, before I’m even particularly interested in your company, that’s a completely different thing.
Same with coding applications. Maybe I will, maybe I won’t, really just depends on if I’m bored or not. But as a requirement before the application is even looked at, it’s fucking stupid.
Yes, they’re basically testing your ability or willingness to do meaningless tasks when they’re assigned to you because let’s face it, most jobs these days are 90% meaningless work.
I used to think that’s a bad thing because just like most people here, I wanted to be exceptional but perhaps it’s not the worst thing in the world to get paid for doing something so simple you could do it in your sleep, so you can save your mental energy for doing more important things in your free time.
And this is exactly why you can’t find anyone with talent that will work for you. You make the hiring process a joke and push all the smart people away. They don’t have to put up with that shit so they don’t.
Companies who utilize these tactics can be ignored. Find a better company to work for. They do exist. Life is too short to put up with moronic companies.
This may be the case at some companies, but I think for the most part this is giving companies too much credit. Having people fill in these details in this form directly feeds into a spreadsheet, meaning the staff responsible for onboarding don’t have to go looking for the information on the resume
There’s a technical reason they do this that has been pointed out elsewhere but it has the added benefit of filtering out people who believe they are above the process. Most jobs have processes (safety processes, legal processes, etc.). You can avoid people who aren’t ready to accept they may be exceptional, but are applying for a position that does not require them to be.
That’s a very pro-company spin on it. But on the other hand it definitely filters for people who don’t mind being downright humiliated by a job that doesn’t respect their time or puts effort into finding employees. This pattern of reentering your resume data is pretty brand new, and justifying it from the companies side is pretty post-hoc when it’s really just offloading labor the company used to do to the unpaid job applicant who has to do this 20 times in a row.
Excuse me, but we’d like you to do some unpaid at-home practice tasks to show us how you’ll
solve themsubmit.I have filled out these forms, and I have abandoned applications.
If I am being paid to follow process, that’s one thing. If I’m being forced to jump through hoops for free on my own time, before I’m even particularly interested in your company, that’s a completely different thing.
Same with coding applications. Maybe I will, maybe I won’t, really just depends on if I’m bored or not. But as a requirement before the application is even looked at, it’s fucking stupid.
Yes, they’re basically testing your ability or willingness to do meaningless tasks when they’re assigned to you because let’s face it, most jobs these days are 90% meaningless work.
I used to think that’s a bad thing because just like most people here, I wanted to be exceptional but perhaps it’s not the worst thing in the world to get paid for doing something so simple you could do it in your sleep, so you can save your mental energy for doing more important things in your free time.
And this is exactly why you can’t find anyone with talent that will work for you. You make the hiring process a joke and push all the smart people away. They don’t have to put up with that shit so they don’t.
Companies who utilize these tactics can be ignored. Find a better company to work for. They do exist. Life is too short to put up with moronic companies.
Cool. You know some of us are starving out here, right?
This may be the case at some companies, but I think for the most part this is giving companies too much credit. Having people fill in these details in this form directly feeds into a spreadsheet, meaning the staff responsible for onboarding don’t have to go looking for the information on the resume
Which makes sense when you’re filtering through hundreds of CVs…