20240520 UPDATE: I just ran winupdate on an ancient win10 surface and after the same 643 error two more times, and running through all the available updates, it’s now reporting I’m up to date. yippee.
I guess the latest update finally fixed it, at least on the Surface.
Anyone tried and succeeded? Not too awful plodding through the resizing? Tips to avoid destroying a partition and having to reinstall the os?
Waow. MS can’t decide if their users should have control of their hardware or not.
Your linux bootloader and efi config? That belongs to Windows, and it will make changes as much as it wants. A recovery partition that has no usefulness outside their own ecosystem? Yeah, they know it’s fucked, and they fucked it, but it’s your computer, you fix it!
Simple. It’s theirs when it works and yours when it doesn’t.
Their when it works and it’s profitable.
Not dickriding microsoft here, but they have provided all the tools to fix this. They just can’t make them happen automatically on effected machines because they broke something particularly complicated.
You need to have enough space to resolve the issue (which was caused by not having enough space in the recovery partition in the first place). You need to adjust the size of the parition (traditionally a risky operation, especially through Windows). You then need to download a specific update while skipping another, install, and reboot.
They have provided scripts for backing up the recovery partition, expanding it, and restoring the contents from backup if expanding fucks the contents. They have provided a script to download and install the specific update to fix the problem once you have enough space in that paritition. They did not automate restarting the computer (piss easy to automate), or to hide the problematic update (easy through UI, probably a pain to script).
I agree that if there was enough space in the recovery partition to begin with, this wouldn’t be a problem, but the user isn’t the party that specified that size or the party that decided to add enough stuff to the recovery partition to exceed that spec.
MS knows that this is a widely-deployed configuration (they deployed it), but they’re going ahead with an automatic update that is incompatible with that configuration anyway, failing to communicate to the user why the failure occurred, and refusing to automate a fix to the thing their automation broke in the first place.
A recovery environment is overrated under Windows. Just backup your files and reinstall from scratch.
I’ve been using windows since windows 3. The number of times I’ve used the “recovery” feature is exactly zero.
Edit: Corrected by another user below. I have used it a couple times for update rollbacks, I just haven’t used it for a full recovery. When I’ve run into serious issues I just reload it from scratch, as I keep data and OS on completely separate drives.
It recovers in the background with no user intervention when things go wrong.
The number of times I’ve used the “recovery” feature is exactly zero.
The RE Partition is for more than Recovery. If you’ve ever uninstalled an update then you’ve used the RE Partition.
Yeah, I have it turned off on all my machines (mostly because of that vulnerability a few months ago).
I have never been in a situation where it was useful, nor have I ever had it work when I tried it.
I was able to fix it using a free open source download called “Mint”. In fact, Mint permanently solved all of my Windows problems!
Tips to avoid destroying a partition and having to reinstall the os?
Start with a file system that doesn’t suck, like ext4, bless the drive with a boot loader that doesn’t suck, like Grub, and then get yourself a kernel that doesn’t suck, like GNU/Linux, then get yourself a software stack that doesn’t suck, like Arch.
I use Arch, BTW.
OP asked “how can I accomplish goal X?”
You responded “Goal X sucks, you should accomplish goal Y instead!”
That’s not exactly useful.
They can avoid needing to repeatedly reinstall the OS by selecting a more stable OS.
They don’t need to reinstall the OS to resolve this issue though, unless they absolutely fucked their paritions.
Which is why Microsoft couldn’t automate a fix. It’s incredibly easy to fuck your partitions to hell and back, especially through Windows. Too many conditions to check for and try to handle automatically.
It’s incredibly easy to fuck your partitions to hell and back, especially through Windows.
Fun fact: Windows won’t allow you to delete any EFI partition (that is the only one I know of/tried) unless its through
diskpartwith a specific override/force option.But then again, I somehow nuked my recovery partition by accident at some point as well.
