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    No it wouldn’t, delusional as usual from libs. Ukraine was bombing Donbas from 2015, killing upwards of 14k people.

    This was after the Minsk II accords where they negotiated, which is very reminiscent of the Israeli tactics in Lebanon of announcing a ceasefire and insisting only your opponent abide by it. It’s reminiscent because that’s the standard US client tactic, which they implement with complicity from the media knowing libs treat contradictory evidence as propaganda.

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        Did your script get jammed? They were bombing Donbas in violation of the peace deal for years after Russians had already exited the country.

        If the US insists on its clients violating brokered agreements, they shouldn’t be surprised when others don’t trust their word.

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          Got it. So for that instance, a great way to have peace would for be for them not to do that.

          A great way to have peace right now would be for Russia to leave. Like a great way for there to have peace would be for everyone to just… Have peace. Easy peasy.

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            Christ, I can get more intelligent conversation from a 7 year old anywhere in the world than a western adult I stg. It’s like talking to Matt Miller.

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                Y’all can’t even fucking read lmao not even pretending you found a gotcha, just doing madlibs with a word or two you found in the comment.

                No wonder it’s so easy to propagandize you.

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                Nah, I base my opinion around the evidence. If the consensus of the US and Western Europe was what drove my opinion, I’d have been in favor of killing Gaddafi, invading Iraq, torturing Asians in Vietnam, bombing Iran, and all other sorts of monstrous shit.

                I’ll wait for y’all to pretend you were always on the fence or against but simultaneously there was no way of knowing, since only the tankies were saying it and we know we can’t trust those.

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                If everyone around you disagrees with you, maybe it’s time to be open to the posibility that you are wrong?

                give it time and you’ll see how reality makes us all aware

                everyone else has work to do to put food on the table; we can’t respond as quickly.