See you guys in I2P :)
ha. all of my traffic is encrypted and routed through at least 3 pirate friendly countries and servers that don’t keep logs. good fucking luck inspecting those packets.
Then pirates will just get smarter. No way for them to see who is watching all of these movies with their VPN and Debrid service.
Lol.
Do ISPs like making money?
Then they shouldn’t disconnect users who pirate.
I get notifications from my ISP all the time. They don’t do anything though because they like the money I give them.
I’ve been torrenting movies and software since 2000, no vpn, like I literally have torrented damn near everything I’ve watched for decades and have only gotten a notice once and it wasn’t even me. It was from a temporary roommate who had watched a movie on a pirate streaming site.
So that tells you how good and accurate their detection techniques are.
Their methods are fine, they literally just pirate the stuff themselves, see which IPs connect to them, then connect those to an ISP and notify them. The main reasons you wouldn’t get notices are getting lucky, not seeding much, not torrenting things that are being monitored, or having an ISP that doesn’t care much.
The single notice from the streaming site makes sense, pirate streaming sites are usually honeypots or heavily monitored.
My routine is always use piratebay, never use a pirate streaming site, no new or big studio releases, no porn, not seeding for long and choosing less active torrents. I can’t say much for how effective it is since I’ve never gotten hit so I can’t really experiment (I’ve had five or six ISPs in two different countries).
they literally just pirate the stuff themselves, see which IPs connect to them, then connect those to an ISP and notify them.
And I don’t even understand how this would hold up if it ever went to trial. How can an IP owner “pirate” their own IP? Even when they outsource it to services who do this they’re still giving permission for the IP to be distributed.
It’s like hiring someone to “steal” your own TV, putting it in a back alley and then accusing whoever takes it of being a thief.
It’s generally seen as okay on a similar level to undercover work. They do it for Investigation reasons, the torrent was already uploaded before they joined, their monitoring serves a legitimate law enforcement purpose, and they’re authorized by the copyright holder (themselves) to do it. They didn’t put the movie or whatever out there themselves.
After switching to torbrowser for all my questionable searches and downloads, I no longer get notices from my ISP for like 10 years now
Always make sure that QBT uses your VPN’s network interface. I got some DMCA emails despite split-tunneling a VPN recently, and I realized it was bound to all interfaces by default - that’s no good.
Better to just configure a firewall properly so that no packets can go outside of the vpn tunnel.
How is that better? If you configure your firewall rules incorrectly, this protects you against that. This ensures you have no connection if your VPN isn’t on/isn’t working.
This is how you get a new darknet.
In Germany and no doubt some other countries, private law firms can (on behalf of the copyright holders) request people’s identity based on residential IP addresses and then send extortionist legal threats. Apparently an IP appearing on a public tracker can be enough to trigger it, without any confirmed data transfer.
VPNs are common and usually sufficient.
they try that in the US, using mass litigation, but it doesnt work, its usually designed to scare indivudal IP users to “turn them self in”
A boy downloaded a movie via torrent without using a VPN.
He died.
Good night! 😴
Don’t public trackers add random IPs?
They could. The protocol also supports IP spoofing, so doxing could also be a thing.
For individuals, it is a time consuming and costly legal process, whether justified or not. For the law firm, it costs a few cents per letter, but they get a few hundred (or more) euros when some sucker pays.
Yep there is no way they can block I2P, they have to block all of it.
All public wifi will be disconnected pretty quickly.
let’s all fall on our sword to make sure Disney never loses a potential subscriber for Marvel Wars. Truly, we are defending the interests of the people here
“the internet” is a necessity and requirement to function in society. You can’t be denied access to it anymore, it would be disproportionate.
Exactly, sure disconnect customers from the Internet if they use it for entertainment… but once they use it to earn the income that pays their bills, it becomes questionable… and once it is in practice required to be a citizen, at the local, national or supra national level then it becomes a totally different question, to which the answer is basically no, you can’t disconnect someone otherwise you remove their citizenship.
Pretty sure I have read somewhere that it is now also an official necessity in Germany
I think in Finland it is a basic utility like power and water. It is certainly priced like that.
Being accused of will lose you access to basic infrastructure? Why not cut electricity too?
give it a few months, they’re working up to it.
Don’t give them ideas. Next they’ll cut the blood stream to your brain.
Supreme Court: “One of us! One of us!”
Pretty sure they’ve already done that by not regulating social media better
If it’s upheld, that’s the precursor to full-blown info blackouts, just cut off internet to anyone ‘accused’ of wrongspeak against the powers that be, which is basically everyone.
This also sounds like SOPA reborn.
Oh, so like they do in the uncivilized middle-east?
NaaaahTheir uncivilized censorship regime vs. our civilized online child protection and anti-terror laws.
So you bought into the think of the children argument?
You know that’s a red-herring, right? It’s really about eroding privacy.It was supposed to be a reference to a meme making fun of “us vs. them” mentalities. I know enough about the think of the children argument.
Given the US is now ran by the New Fuhrer? I could see this being used against criticism of leadership or anything else resembling free will and not just piracy. I also find it sad that the day the US will probably die as a free country and turn into a dictatorship, is the same day it gained its independence in the first place.
Is ran?
Accused???
Well alrighty then, I hereby accuse the operators of donaldjtrump.com of piracy! Anybody else notice any piratical activity? Foxnews.com seems pretty fishy.
And OpenAI of course.
But it’s not piracy if you use it for an LLM, right‽
Yes we are all training our LLMs. Perfectly legal.
Thanks for reminding me that I need to go train my LLM on the new season of Yellowjackets
So if Meta is convicted of pirating books for AI training, they lose all internet connectivity? 🧐
dint they just rule AI can legally scrape/books, but not for people who are pirating directly.
The US is such a silly place. Everything is so wrong.
IIRC the judge said they could use the data for training, but specifically added that piracy is still piracy and he didn’t rule on that.
So Disney can just sue Meta for one trillion 😀
so then individuals could just train a model locally on the shittiest hardware they have
God willing
Based on that logic, ammunition and arms manufacturers should be held liable for damages as well.
Yes, but that would mean that logic has any bearing on what the Supreme Court decides to do
I hate that you’re absolutely correct
The US has a law to limit the liability of gun manufacturers.
The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) is a U.S law, passed in 2005, that protects firearms manufacturers and dealers from being held liable when crimes have been committed with their products. Both arms manufacturers and dealers can still be held liable for damages resulting from defective products, breach of contract, criminal misconduct, and other actions for which they are directly responsible. However, they may be held liable for negligent entrustment if it is found that they had reason to believe a firearm was intended for use in a crime.
Because of fucking course there is
Were talking about Jesusland after all
More like, if you steal something you are banned from using roads and sidewalks and doors.
Gonna be a lot of issues that come from this. Legally speaking. It’s already on the books that an IP address doesn’t represent a single person… so I’m not terribly clear on how they plan to enforce this even if it were to pass.
Yeah, sure but to “steal something” is to imply that you’re depriving the original owner use of the thing you stole. This is more like making an exact copy depriving nobody of use of the original thing.
it’s more like depriving someone use of roads, sidewalks, and doors because they got caught walking out of Kinkos
I’m not a judge, but isn’t internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.
Not even piracy. Accusations thereof.
accused piracy, too. Not proven. Not convicted. Just “pirate go bye bye.”
This would be the case had net neutrality not been killed off nearly a decade ago
Net neutrality is why your online jokes were censored under Biden
– John McRacist, Republican congressman, former CFO of Evil Inc., former lawyer of Vile Ltd., member of Christofascism Society and Roman Salutes to Jesus
I’m pretty sure this supreme court would rule that people don’t have a right to electricity, or even water. They’ll probably be totally ok with people losing internet access as punishment for crossing media owners.
or even water
We never stopped the “lol treaties with Native American tribes don’t count” bullshit.
Besides your point but this is the aspect about Gorsuch that I can’t seem to make internally consistent. He almost always rules in terms of native rights – even when, I think, it stretches his supposed originalist guiding principle – yet is more than happy to rule as a conservative on all other times and support “industry” and big business (even when it stretches his supposed originalist guiding principle).
I know that nothing necessitates a person to act logically and most act from emotion, more than anything, but most people, I find, have a relative reason they think they’re being logically consistent but I can’t seem to suss even that out, with regards to him.
to be fair the treaty never specified anything about water, and the Navajo nations should have had better lawyers or better guerilla warfare tactics if they wanted more negotiating power.
Pragmatically, yes. Legally, no. Progressives have been fighting for years to get internet classified as a utility in the US, and regressives and (ironically) internet companies have been fighting against that effort at every turn in the name of profit.
And now look how well that’s turned out. Gee, if only some people had warned them that deregulation was a monkey’s paw…
They could even be totally innocent, the mere accusation is enough, wtf?
USCIS can deport a non-citizen for accusations of drug use, including weed.
Let that sink in.
That sink is a vampire, don’t let it in
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Due process seems to just be a recommendation.
Recommendation???
No.
It’s a luxury you can try but only if you can afford it.
Inb4 palantir cuts off your electric and water because you had 15% eye distraction during the mandatory 3hr nightly fox news viewing.
bottle water companies would love this, as would the oil giants
I’m some places in the States they will cut off your electricity or water for sharing with a neighbor that has had theirs shut off. I have seen both happen personally, and not in some back water state. They both happened in upstate NY.
Cut off for sharing, or cut off for running illegal/unsafe/unlicensed wiring and plumbing connections?
For straight up running a hose or an extension cord so they’re not completely doa.
more importantly because of accused. Just accused.
I’m not a United Statesian so I have no clue anymore how it works there, but other places have been making the case that the Internet is an essential service and that access to it is a basic right. So to leapfrog off your question, is that like a poor person stealing a loaf of bread being cut off from food because they didn’t food responsibly enough?
Unfortunately the country I was born in, the USA, is also one that voted against the international resolution to define food as a human right. 😕
didn’t many European countries remove People’s hand for theft a few centuries ago?
They will cut off electricity if you do something illegal with it…
