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    I don’t actually understand why payment processors are whining about what people buy using their service.

    It’s not like people will go

    “Ew, MasterCard, people buy porn with that payment processor, I don’t want a card like that!”

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      the people who run these companies are so astronomically detached from the average human experience - meaning that tagline might actually be the line of thought they’re predicating this on.

      they might say it in corpo drivel-speak, but it’s pretty clear any negative consequences they can think up over the status quo are based in this fear.

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    Just a friendly reminder that Wero is activated in October for online commerce as a European alternative payment method. Fuck Visa, fuck MasterCard, fuck any of these American companies.

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    i bet they don’t even care they are collecting fees from porn, they have been doing it for the longest, that’s just more $ in their pockets. but just trying to please the fascist regime

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      visa and MasterCard are forcing steam and other companies to either remove games THEY don’t agree with or be dropped by Mc/visa.

      it’s just corporate censorship at its finest. credit card companies can essentially tell steam what they are or are not allowed to sell for some weird as fuck reason.

      https://www.engadget.com/gaming/steam-now-bans-games-that-violate-the-rules-and-standards-of-payment-processors-and-banks-164222173.html

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        The weird as fuck reason is steam would no longer be able to take payments through MC or visa. That’s an insane loss of revenue. Valve would have to pay a third party to take payments.

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          That’s such an unnecessary gotcha response lol. Obviously they are reliant on those payment processors for their revenue, which is the very reason they are complying.

          The point is that those two payment processors essentially run credit card payments in the west, and use that dominance to force their values on their clients.

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            to force their values on their clients.

            It’s for sure a dominant oligarchic industry that benefits government and shareholders to the detriment of everyone else.

            But I don’t think they have values. Just cost analysis: the price of litigation and punishment.

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      Collective Shout, an Australian organization lobbies the payment processors to ban adult content from the internet, The payment processors acquiescence to Collective Shout.

      Collective Shout is a self-described feminist non-partisan organization, but has alleged ties with anti-trans and conservative organizations. The group has developed a reputation as a sort of puritan crusade that targets everything from Detroit: Become Human to Tyler, the Creator.

      https://www.gameshub.com/news/article/australian-anti-porn-group-collective-shout-escalates-its-war-for-video-game-censorship-2736180

      Although itch.io has an adult content filter that can be toggled in a user’s settings, indicating whether they want explicit content to be visible in search results and on the store page, the sudden deindexing of NSFW comics, zines, books, games, and other published products on the website means that unless users type in direct links to explicit products, they cannot access them. As is often the case when explicit content is removed en masse, LGBTQIA+, furry, and other content that is considered “obscene” by conservative groups has also been delisted or removed, as reported by The Transfeminine Review. This is especially dangerous in a time when politicians and others in power (i.e. influential billionaires) are actively dehumanizing and disappearing trans people, immigrants, and anyone who steps out of line with the current regime.

      https://www.comicsbeat.com/itch-io-delists-removes-explicit-comics-zines-games-more-under-pressure-from-payment-processors

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        I read somewhere that Collective Shout swayed the processors with around 1000 comments. And that because payment processors generally get so few comments that they felt like that was enough to make the policy change. Those of us who do care should probably figure out how to comment and push back. Might not be enough to save what was lost, but we shouldn’t let them get away with such an easy win.

        Edit: found a thread on bluesky where this is already being organized. Also a link to a change.org petition. Obviously the phone numbers and contact forms linked in the Bluesky thread are probably the better route if you have the time, but anything is better than nothing.

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      Credit card companies pressured Steam to remove some content that has incest/rape in it, specifically stuff that is easily searched because there is still content with it available on Steam.

      Recently credit card companies pressured Itch to remove all NSFW.

      The only common thread is that video game selling platforms are bending over to make it so you cant buy stuff where you see stuff that bends over probably because of religion n oppressed small penis syndrome or something.

      I don’t know wtf that first one is so im assuming something similar but I dont really care any more because Ive got a pirate hat and a provider of my high seas who doesnt give a shit either.

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    I’m not sure I would put blood leading to steam considering my “Because you love” section says

    Sexual Content, Mature, NSFW, and Nudity

    And I’ve only purchased 3 porn games out of the hundreds of games in my library.

    (I bought them specifically because they’re fun games even if you remove the porn. But also I don’t mind the porn)

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        Subverse
        Take me to the dungeon
        Max Gentleman Sexy Business (this is really just some cartoon nudity)

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          Take me to the dungeon has way more strategy involved than I expected…

          I’m sitting there trying to figure out the best path to reload cards while getting extra items and all of a sudden: slowly zooming spike pit crotch cam!

          Oh yeah, this is a porn game…

          Flipwitch is a fantastic Metroidvania that I can’t talk about to my “normal” gaming friends, even though I’d love to recommend it.

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            Yeah i loved Take me to the dungeon, I kept coming back just to play the game. I fear my tags aren’t getting any better in steam because I’m probably going to check out flipwitch.

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              It’s fun & lighthearted without being too difficult, with an interesting core mechanic.

              Scarlet Maiden in another fun one; A rougelite Metroidvania - like a NSFW Dead Cells w/ lower difficulty.