In a video statement, Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu called the growing MAGA conspiracy a ‘monstrous big lie.’

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    7 hours ago

    Incidentally, why don’t we all play with the same truthiness ruleset?

    Benjamin Netanyahu ordered the hit on Charlie Kirk.

    We know with certainty that Donald Trump did not order the hit, as he’d be bragging about it.

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      Do we really, though? I don’t trust El Taco to remember what he’s wearing at the moment, let alone whether or not he ordered a hit.

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    This is going to make the conspiracy nuts latch on even harder. You just Streisanded yourself, dumbass.

    ps: The American right wing hates Jews almost as much as they hate Muslims.

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      I’m not right wing, I’m not antisemitic, and I never liked Charlie Kirk.

      Still think there’s a good chance Netenyahu was involved in his death. I don’t believe he acted alone though. Hours before he was killed the house and the Senate tried to investigate connections between Epstein, big banks like JP Morgan, Netenyahu, Elon Musk, and others. Republicans in the House and Senate blocked it and barely anyone noticed bc suddenly Charlie Kirk was assassinated and a bizarre series of incidents allowed the killer to get away.

      Trump immediately began calling for war on the left and Elon Musk suddenly went on his white supremacy world tour.

      The investigation into the suspect has been botched as fuck, and they claim that they had a note he wrote confessing to the murder but it was destroyed.

      The House voted again yesterday and again Republicans blocked a subpoena of big banks involved in this connection. And once again barely anybody noticed bc the Trump admin is still distracting with war on the left avenging Charlie Kirk’s murder (which they most likely helped carry out).

      Kirk was rumored to have refused to accept money from Israel, but he also had been one of the few right wing propaganda outlets who backtracked after making the statement that he wouldn’t talk about Epstein because he faced a lot of backlash from his fans.

      There were several powerful individuals that would have been very angry at him and needed a big distraction. The question is who actually gave the order for the go ahead? Who orchestrated it and who sent who to carry it out?

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      I feel like I would suspect them less if they hadn’t said anything. Most of Israel’s formal statements regarding allegations of Israeli violence are lies, so what would make this statement different?

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      Eh, there was “evidence” (a third-party tweet) that Kirk was worried about being killed by Israel shortly before his death.

      It’s not like this came out of nowhere.

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        He was a raging antisemite. Of course a raging antiemetic whack job would be concerned about them killing him.

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          Wait, antisemite definition one ‘hates Jews’ or antisemite definition two ‘thinks Palestinians are people’? Definition one has nothing to fear.

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            The original, actual, sense.

            He’s a white supremacist. He hated anyone who isn’t white. He’s said some pretty horrific things about Jews, even if he’s nominally okay with an Israeli state (because fascists of a feather…)

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                I dunno.

                They didn’t ask me if they should.

                (and the only- and I mean only- reason I’d be inclined to say they did kill Kirk was because they just let everyone know they most certainly did not kill him.)

                There’s a funny babylon 5 clip here. the backstory is that her boss, Captain Sheridan, asked her to slip in that nothing happened in sector 83x9x12. She balked saying that her thing not being propaganda. She gives in, because in point of fact nothing happened, at all. He also did other things like having a fleet of ships move around and shoot random rocks in quiet spaces… all because he was trying to get a cantankerous group of allied worlds (ironically named, “league of non-allied worlds”…) to sign a thing bringing them into a more formal alliance. These worlds saw the whites stars shooting at the rocks, saw the announcement, and were like “White stars don’t shoot at nothing! there must be an enemy we can’t see!” (and then handed him everything he wanted.)

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            Definitely 1. Is position over Israel and Palestine seems to have been all over the place. There are videos of him saying Netanyahu is lying about Gaza, and he we was firmly against Israel’s attack on Iran, but then he would also say absurd stuff like there’s no starvation in Gaza.

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    I think this means we’re at the stage where he’s decided it makes more sense to list off all the crimes he’s not doing.

    List complete.

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      Charles himself said about 6 months ago that he was worried Israel would try to harm him because about a year ago he stopped supporting them over the genocide, so this isn’t out of absolutely nowhere. My guess is that it was just a dogwhistle.

      The fact that Israel is actually saying it, however? Like… Aight. If they said nothing I would have continued to disregard it, but Israel’s statements are around the same credibility level as Russia’s, so I kind of have to give credence to the possibility that the exact opposite of what they say is true…

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    Charlie Kirk was very pro-Israel most of his career, but lately he had been turning against Israel. It is consistent and beliavable that Israel had him killed.

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    People, i know his goons gun down children in Gaza on the regular, but if you read the article it explains that several maggats have been accusing him of having a grudge against Kirk for his recent opposition to the aforementioned gunning down of children.

    TLDR: He’s not saying it out of the blue. People have been accusing him

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    This sounds exactly what someone who did kill Charlie Kirk would say. /s

    Real talk y’all, I didn’t even really think to entertain that conspiracy until this.