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    Every time I see any reference to the UK I’m expecting to see more bullshit surveillance and censorship. And so, here we are.

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    Meanwhile, average Britons are fighting over migrants and lgbt. What I find is that none of those politically opinionated on these ever talk about economics. Odd, that people seemed to have talked less about taxing the rich and wealth inequality than before. Gee, I wonder if it’s because surveillance capitalism and techno-feudalism want people distracted from the theft of ordinary people’s wealth by the rich?

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      There is nothing evil about palantir as a company or business model. They are a highly skilled big data analytics firm and just ingest clients data and output useful metrics.

      The evil is the client(governments) intention to collect and use this kind of data. Which has nothing to do with capitalism and is only happening due to liberalism being on the way out.

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        So palantir analyses pretty sensitive data, for instance health data from NHS. They may not be able to share the data itself but are there any safeguards against them using the knowledge they gain from these analyses to consult health insurance companies for outrageous amounts of money so insurance companies can fuck people even more by grinding stats?

        Same goes for them analysing surveillance data. Any safeguards against it actually consulting fascist political parties on results of these analyses so they can more efficiently carry out fear mongering?

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        I guess there was nothing evil about GM and Ford supplying Nazis with vehicle parts (Henry Ford got a ‘golden eagle’ award from Adolf!) before WW2. Just good business, right?

        Nothing evil about IBM supplying them with punch cards to keep track of the Jewish either, right?

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          The evil there is the Nazi’s so Im not going to talk about “most evil” and point to Ford when the Nazi’s are standing right next to them.

          We can easily chain together support to call anyone evil but thats stupid and unproductive. I’ll draw the line at the person committing the evil act being evil. Are people who hold raytheon stock evil? Are people who work for the government under Trump evil? Are the people who made food for Nazi’s evil? Where do you draw your line?

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        This is an accurate assessment. Companies will do what they can to make more money, it’s that simple. The fact that the clients choose to use it for evil doesn’t make a difference.

        Granted, if their product wasn’t available, then governments would buy it, but still, it’s just another company taking advantage of what their clients want and profiting from it.

        Samsung makes shit devices that steal all your data and sell that data for more profit. The same devices are made with planned obsolescence in mind. If you buy Samsung devices that’s on tour, not them.

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          “Companies will do what they can to make more money” Yea, including evil shit. Like palantir.

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        You clearly know nothing or feign ignorance about its creator/CEO, Peter Thiel, who is evil, with evil intent, and evil aspirations.

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          I dont care about some nutcase CEO yapping in vanity interviews. Show me something evil done by the company palantir. The things people are upset at palantir for are things requested by the people voted in to write laws. The criticism should be entirely on them.

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        Palantir could refuse to accept the mandate and the money, but they didn’t. So the governments are evil, and so is Palantir

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      Conservatives always -hate- deficit spending … or anything else … when someone else is doing it. Else it’s right and noble and good.

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      “Stupid” does not apply here, unless you have an alternative version of reality. Corrupt politicians with no morals will sell the country if they get a cut, regardless of how it might affect those around the world, having only a selfish interest (for reelection purposes and whatnot) in the relative well-being of the citizens. This is logical and expected… they’re not stupid, they’re just amoral, selfish, greedy, unrepenting and inhumane folks. 🤷

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    This deal would have been part of the agreements made with the US Administration. Part of the capitulation to illiberal forces.